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re: SEC Officials respond to MSU/Memphis game

Posted on 9/19/21 at 7:16 am to
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 9/19/21 at 7:16 am to
Ouch.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 9/19/21 at 7:19 am to
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LINK
It was clearly a horrible call.

But give the kid credit, he played to the whistle
Posted by dltigers3
Collierville, TN
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 9/19/21 at 7:20 am to
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we would NEVER hear the end of it had this happened to LSU


Maybe, but we would also be seeing, “stop crying and blaming the refs for a bad call in a game you were already losing” posts from every other fan base.

You lost to Memphis. Your coach called 67 pass plays. You were shutout in the 2nd half until they went prevent. Leach even admitted that his players should have made sure the ball was downed. Stop crying!
Posted by dltigers3
Collierville, TN
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 9/19/21 at 7:23 am to
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But it’s rich seeing an LSU fan talk about fans complaining about refs.


Can you link me to a post of mine complaining about refs? I mean, I consider myself important, but I’m definitely not the representative of the entire LSU fanbase
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 9/19/21 at 7:26 am to
At least it would have showed some life. Leach coached that game like he personally smuggled some primo Washington Wonder Weed to Starkville to partake of.
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 9/19/21 at 7:30 am to
No matter what screw up happened... as soon as the ref threw put his hands up to start signaling end of play that was the point where the play has to stop.

It's loud and players see things in their peripheral vision. This is why the refs use whistles and hand signals to stop play. A few of the MSU guys had to have seen the ref do this. Just a takes a split second of hesitation to let a guy get loose.

Complete clusterfrick on refs part. Before (2 #4s on field), during, and after. They could have corrected that after the play was over. Suspensions should be happening and I don't even like MSU.
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 9/19/21 at 7:42 am to
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The entire game turned on a stupid decision by Leach. He went for it on 4th and goal instead of taking the easy FG and extending the lead. YOU ALWAYS TAKE THE POINTS ON THE ROAD. He didn’t, the 4th down play was unsuccessful, and then Memphis drove 98 yards and took the lead. That was the momentum swing and State never got it back.

Freeze did the exact same thing in the Liberty Bowl several years ago for Ole Miss. They were up 10-0 and he got cute in the red zone on 4th down instead of kicking the FG. Memphis grabbed the momentum and ended up winning that one going away.

If Leach kicks that FG, none of the rest happens. No 98 yard drive. Even if Memphis scores it’s a tie game, not a lead. The punt return almost certainly doesn’t happen, at least not the same way. Make the right call there and State likely wins by at least a score and never really gives up the momentum. All it takes is one stupid decision to open the door in a road game.



Leach lost to Arkansas the same way last year. Kept going for it on 4th down (and getting skunked) instead of settling for chip shot FGs, and it ended up being the difference in the game.
Posted by Shunface
Lafayette County Detention Center
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 9/19/21 at 7:43 am to
This happened with 5:58 left.

Should’ve played better against an inferior opponent.
Posted by dltigers3
Collierville, TN
Member since Jun 2010
2171 posts
Posted on 9/19/21 at 7:48 am to
Just watched the replay again, the state dude barely puts his hand on the ball and it is clearly still rolling after his hand came off. The Memphis guy picks the ball up before the red starts waving his arms. So if they had called it dead at that point, Memphis would have a pretty good argument for getting screwed out of a TD also.

So basically, State can just keep crying about 2 numbers 4s on the field at the same time in game they were already losing, like have 2 of the same number effected the play at all
Posted by Shamoan
Member since Feb 2019
11600 posts
Posted on 9/19/21 at 7:53 am to
The fact that the curled crew is still officiating after decades of blown calls let’s everyone know this conference is not serious about cleaning up it’s officiating. Every one of them should be fired yesterday.
This post was edited on 9/19/21 at 7:58 am
Posted by Mizzou Mule
St. Charles County, Missou-rah
Member since Sep 2014
3113 posts
Posted on 9/19/21 at 7:54 am to
Best conference...worst refs.

I'll never understand this.
Posted by Swagga
504
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 9/19/21 at 8:00 am to
The bigger issue is that they have replay and don’t get the call right. You can clearly see the ref waving it dead and then the Memphis player picks it up.

That’s awful.
Posted by Shamoan
Member since Feb 2019
11600 posts
Posted on 9/19/21 at 8:01 am to
It’s irrelevant whether the ball was moving or not. The ref signaled the ball was dead and yanked his hands down when the Memphis player grabbed the ball. The play is over at that point. The SEC office said exactly this.
Posted by dltigers3
Collierville, TN
Member since Jun 2010
2171 posts
Posted on 9/19/21 at 8:01 am to
I don’t disagree with the replay point, but every video I’ve seen it the Memphis player is already running with the ball before the ref waves it
Posted by dltigers3
Collierville, TN
Member since Jun 2010
2171 posts
Posted on 9/19/21 at 8:05 am to
I mean the link is on page 2 guys, just go rewatch. The Memphis dude is already running with the ball before the official waves his arms. It’s not even debatable if you go watch the link. And he was running past all the state players at that point anyway, the arm wave didn’t slow them down
Posted by Shamoan
Member since Feb 2019
11600 posts
Posted on 9/19/21 at 8:07 am to
The conference has already officially stated the play should have been dead. You are wrong.
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
22363 posts
Posted on 9/19/21 at 8:09 am to
I get what you are saying but ref threw the beanbag, he is clearly running up to the ball, and then throws hands up. No ref runs toward a live ball on the ground like that. You know this.

Every MSU player on the field not within 10 yards of the ball is also looking at the ball and seeing the ref running up.

Are you seriously saying that 2 #4s on the field should not be called because it didn't affect the play? Do you really want to leave it to the refs to interpret "affect on play" as to whether or not they throw a flag?? Probably the dumbest shite posted the entire weekend.

You cannot be serious.
This post was edited on 9/19/21 at 8:10 am
Posted by dltigers3
Collierville, TN
Member since Jun 2010
2171 posts
Posted on 9/19/21 at 8:10 am to
That’s not what you said though, you said the red was waiving his arms and then pulled them down when the Memphis player picked up the ball. That is clearly not what happened. You are 100% wrong.

Had they called it an inadvertent downing at that point it would have cost Memphis a TD
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
22363 posts
Posted on 9/19/21 at 8:13 am to
Dude...
Posted by dltigers3
Collierville, TN
Member since Jun 2010
2171 posts
Posted on 9/19/21 at 8:13 am to
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Are you seriously saying that 2 #4s on the field should not be called because it didn't affect the play?


No, it should have been called. But State fans crying about losing to Memphis because of a penalty like that, that doesn’t actually affect the play on the field not being called in a game they were already losing is pathetic
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