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re: SEC Lacrosse

Posted on 8/7/21 at 5:09 pm to
Posted by UKWildcats
Lexington, KY
Member since Mar 2015
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Posted on 8/7/21 at 5:09 pm to
Lacrosse is a yankee and coastal thing. NY, NJ, PA, MD.. those are the states where they actually care. VA and NC have gotten big into it also. A lot of the talent comes from OH and PA. I guess if UK wanted to get into it we could be great at it, but I don't know who would give a frick. I've watched plenty of matches, easy enough to keep up with. Just don't see any demand. I'd be for SEC adding it if only to take it out of yankee hands and flip them the bird.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
54154 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 5:18 pm to
A lot of high schools in la are starting teams
Why is it not an Olympic sport anymore
This post was edited on 8/7/21 at 5:19 pm
Posted by Windy City
Member since Jun 2019
2186 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 5:23 pm to
My kids are really into this sport and their high school here in Texas has produced some real talent going to Duke, UVA, Syracuse, Loyola, Georgetown, and several other top programs. I have no doubt that the SEC could produce pretty competitive programs of the financial backing was there.

Interestingly, several of the kids have played at A&M and LSU.

They go on the road and play against some of the Florida high school programs. Ponte Vedra and Jupiter had very strong teams.
This post was edited on 8/7/21 at 5:25 pm
Posted by Windy City
Member since Jun 2019
2186 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 5:28 pm to
quote:

Lacrosse is a yankee and coastal thing.


I don't think this is true anymore. Cali, Colorado, Texas, Florida, and the Midwest states are far down the road building broad based high school teams and sending kids to elite college programs every year . One of the consistently dominant high school programs is Culver Military in rural Indiana.

The Big 10 is building up D-1 competitive programs and Notre Dame has had consistently strong teams for decades now.

Posted by hubreb
Member since Nov 2008
2089 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 6:55 pm to
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are far down the road building broad based high school teams and sending kids to elite college programs every year


This is not what you think it is, there are 61 d1 lacrosse teams, they can provide 12.6 scholarships for 45 players, that is worse than baseball....less than half fund all of the scholarships...the 7-10 schools with real college experience like Ohio State, Michigan, UVA, Duke, NC dominate recruiting and steal good players from the other schools...the vast majority of college lacrosse players pay full vig at lower lvl d1, d2 and d3 teams...my son is getting called by a bunch of these...tuition is 50k+ and the schools are sub 5k enrollment...most kids at these schools get academic scholarships...they use lacrosse to get kids who want to say they play college lax, and are willing to shell out the full price
Posted by agswin
The Republic of Texas
Member since Aug 2011
4360 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 9:49 pm to
It’s big in Houston & DFW high school club sports. ACC recruits men & women big time.
Posted by ChadThundercock
Germany
Member since Mar 2020
581 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 10:10 pm to
A lot of SEC and SoCon schools compete with club teams in the SELC lacrosse conference. Their logo is a rip-off of the old SEC logo
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
45270 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 10:14 pm to
Yeah the SELC is one of the divisions in the MCLA (of which we’re also members) that I linked earlier.

LAX would do well in the SEC—and already is.
Posted by Oklahomey
Bucksnort, TN
Member since Mar 2013
5910 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 10:26 pm to
I’m surprised lacrosse isn’t a bigger deal across the college landscape. Wish OU had a team.
Posted by starkvingrad
Florida
Member since Apr 2021
5837 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 10:51 pm to
Kids who play lacrosse all need an arse beating
Posted by UKWildcats
Lexington, KY
Member since Mar 2015
18852 posts
Posted on 8/8/21 at 1:27 am to
quote:

I don't think this is true anymore. Cali, Colorado, Texas, Florida, and the Midwest states are far down the road building broad based high school teams and sending kids to elite college programs every year . One of the consistently dominant high school programs is Culver Military in rural Indiana.

The Big 10 is building up D-1 competitive programs and Notre Dame has had consistently strong teams for decades now.
So, you say its not true that it's a yankee sport and proceed to list a bunch of yankee states and schools to bolster your argument?


Good luck with all that.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
21017 posts
Posted on 8/8/21 at 5:38 am to
Can’t play lacrosse in the US anymore. It’s culture appropriation and got canceled
Posted by FirstCityDawg
Member since May 2017
3457 posts
Posted on 8/8/21 at 6:32 am to
Sure, but it wouldn’t hurt.
Posted by EssexTiger
Maryland
Member since Apr 2020
155 posts
Posted on 8/8/21 at 7:07 am to
Currently, two SEC programs have varsity lacrosse teams for women, Florida and Vanderbilt. Florida has been a competitive top 10 program almost from their onset of play and is very attractive to girls wanting an education in warmer weather. Vanderbilt began its program before Florida and has played in one final 4. It has historically been a top 25 program. Almost all of the starting players on these two teams have been from traditional lacrosse playing states, many of which have established youth programs beginning at 5-6 years of age, coached by parents who played in middle and high schools and college. Lack of qualified coaches and officials is now a challenge for widespread lacrosse play in the South. We'll need presidents and athletic directors like Jeremy Foley, emeritus AD at Florida, who appreciated lacrosse from his days at Hobart (an historical D3 power for mens lacrosse) if lacrosse is to be adopted and promoted across the SEC. Most of the SEC schools certainly have the funds in their athletic departments to support lacrosse programs. Historically, only partial scholarships are available to most players in the ACC, Big 10, etc, so that is not an issue for the SEC. Fields would not be a problem since many SEC schools have varsity soccer fields that are used in the Fall season, while lacrosse uses a similar field and is a Spring sport. So the main costs would be for coaches (usually 3-4), a trainer, uniforms/equipment, and travel, along with a modest recruiting budget. So I don't see costs as prohibitive, just the lack of an appreciation for lacrosse and the will to promote the sport more widely by high-placed administrators and advocates. With more students coming South for their education from traditional lacrosse states and its increasing adoption at youth levels in the South, it is just a matter of time before lacrosse
becomes a serious SEC sport, at least for women.
Posted by Murph4HOF
A-T-L-A-N-T-A (that's where I stay)
Member since Sep 2019
17655 posts
Posted on 8/8/21 at 8:26 am to
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EssexTiger
I rarely say this on the Rant.

Great, informative post. Thank you for typing it all up.
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 8/8/21 at 8:39 am to
quote:

Texas A&M has a very popular LAX program.
Would love to see the sport gain traction in the conference


Would be great.

We didn’t have Lacrosse when I grew up in Louisiana. But my son started playing last fall here in Colorado and it looks like a lot of fun.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41521 posts
Posted on 8/8/21 at 8:42 am to
quote:

The SEC needs to add wrestling, especially with OU and Texas coming on board.


Completely support.
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 8/8/21 at 8:43 am to
quote:

Lacrosse is a yankee and coastal thing.


I don't think this is true anymore. Cali, Colorado, Texas, Florida, and the Midwest states are far down the road building broad based high school teams and sending kids to elite college programs every year


Yeah, didn’t know till we moved here, but LAX is huge in Colorado.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
28137 posts
Posted on 8/8/21 at 8:55 am to
quote:

So, you say its not true that it's a yankee sport and proceed to list a bunch of yankee states and schools to bolster your argument?



This was your statement

quote:

Lacrosse is a yankee and coastal thing. NY, NJ, PA, MD.. those are the states where they actually care. VA and NC have gotten big into it also


He was pointing out it simply wasn't the case.Its very big in metro areas in the south (Atlanta,Houston,DFW,etc) but probably not so much in rural Kentucky.
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
9405 posts
Posted on 8/8/21 at 9:20 am to
Lax is actually a pretty damn physical sport and is a much better secondary sport for football players than baseball or basketball, that's why it has gained a lot of popularity in Austin. I was a huge skeptic but then as my youngest played I came to appreciate it. Our HS just has a club team but we have had at least 1 kid go D1 every year.
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