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re: SEC divisions and scheduling

Posted on 8/13/11 at 9:56 am to
Posted by Billy Mays
Member since Jan 2009
25276 posts
Posted on 8/13/11 at 9:56 am to
quote:

The divisions would be...

East

Kentucky
Vanderbilt
South Carolina
Florida State
Clemson
Florida
Georgia
Tennessee

West

Ole Miss
MSU
Mizzou
TX A&M
LSU
UA
AU
AR


this
Posted by AMM AU9893
Auburn, AL
Member since Feb 2011
13789 posts
Posted on 8/13/11 at 9:57 am to
quote:

The SEC East is stacked and the North is extremely mediocre.

That's only football speaking though. The North would be pretty stacked in basketball if Tennessee can recover from probation
Posted by MonroeTiger3
Post Count 13,532
Member since Aug 2011
290 posts
Posted on 8/13/11 at 9:58 am to
If we were to add 4 teams and go "super conference," I prefer your divisions. It would be way too tough to try and play everyone in the league.
Posted by stapuffmarshy
lower 9
Member since Apr 2010
17507 posts
Posted on 8/13/11 at 9:58 am to
quote:

Lsu
Arky
Aggies
Mizz





Why do we have to get stuck with the stepchildren?


never happen, LSU and Mississippi schools would stay together

it's gonna be two 8 team divisions

7 in div games, 1 perm rival and 4 ooc

Very doubtful SEC schools give up a OOC home game...

perm rivals:?
lsu-uf
bama-ut
aubie-uga
fsu- a&m
msu-usc
om-vandy
arky-uk
mizzou-clemson


and boom
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36110 posts
Posted on 8/13/11 at 10:01 am to
assuming it is just A&M and FSU - it isn't horrible

West:

Bama
LSU
Auburn
Arky
A&M
Ole Miss
MSU

East:

Florida
FSU
UT
UGA
USC
KY
Vandy
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90738 posts
Posted on 8/13/11 at 10:01 am to
quote:

never happen, LSU and Mississippi schools would stay together


You'd get to have 2 permanent traditional rivals. You could keep Ole Miss. Dunno why you'd want to have Miss St too though. Bama will have a talk to the office in Bham and make sure they're the Bears and Gators.
Posted by Whereisomaha
Member since Feb 2010
17939 posts
Posted on 8/13/11 at 10:03 am to
If the SEC is smart, they'll go with more divisions. If you have four divisions then more teams have a chance towards the end of the season to win a division crown. That means more important games, which means more TV viewers, more ticket sales, and more money. If you have 2 divisions of 8 teams then 10-12 teams will be fighting just for bowl position halfway through the season.
This post was edited on 8/13/11 at 10:04 am
Posted by Obi-Wan Tiger
Fulshear TX
Member since Jan 2004
6818 posts
Posted on 8/13/11 at 10:06 am to
quote:

7 in div games, 1 perm rival and 4 ooc


I hope to God this does not happen. I see no point in forming a conference where there are 7 teams that you never play except in a conference championship game. I personally think they need to go to nine conference games, with a true 2-2-2-2 rotation in the opposite division. It would leave 7 years between meetings, but that's better than none. I like the traditional opposite divison matchups as much as anyone, but something has to give to make this equitable. OU-NU quit playing every year and now won't play at all. The world would survive without Bama-Tenn and UGA-Aub...which is really why we have "permanent" non division rivals in the first place.
This post was edited on 8/13/11 at 10:10 am
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90738 posts
Posted on 8/13/11 at 10:07 am to
Also, with divisions, and assuming other conferences do it, you could have bowl games 2 weeks after the conference championship games, and the 2 week playoff for the NC could happen the following week. Bowls still get their money, schools get to play and have exposure and it leads into a 2 week playoff, while giving the 4 best teams in the nation 3 weeks to prepare and have healthy teams.
This post was edited on 8/13/11 at 10:08 am
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90738 posts
Posted on 8/13/11 at 10:09 am to
quote:

OU-NU quit playing every year and now won't play at all. The world would survive without Bama-Tenn and UGA-Aub...which is really why we have "permanent" non division rivals in the first place.


And since they quit, that conference has been in turmoil. Taking away the tradition from college ball destroys it, imo.
Posted by Stanky Legg
Member since Sep 2010
4052 posts
Posted on 8/13/11 at 10:09 am to
quote:

I'd frickin die if I was in a four team division with two Bama schools.


Why do you care what division you're in? If you are never going to win it, does it even matter?

Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36110 posts
Posted on 8/13/11 at 10:11 am to
quote:

while giving the 4 best teams in the nation


if they use the four major conference champs as the representatives - that will typically not be the best four teams available.

BCS already allows for automatic participation if you win a major conference - although I would like it if they went to the top four BCS teams having a playoff - that is not necessarily in the cards
Posted by Obi-Wan Tiger
Fulshear TX
Member since Jan 2004
6818 posts
Posted on 8/13/11 at 10:13 am to
quote:

Taking away the tradition from college ball destroys it, imo.


don't completely disagree, but there is not much more traditional than UT/A&M and that is about to be blown up. Let's face it, someone will get screwed with naming of "traditional rivals" and I favor fairness over tradition.

If a team feels like it must play its rival every year, make it a non-conference game in the alternating years. Saw where CU and Cal are doing that this year. Not exactly the same situation admittedly, but it can be done.
Posted by MaroonNation
StarkVegas, Mississippi, Bitch!
Member since Nov 2010
21950 posts
Posted on 8/13/11 at 10:18 am to
quote:

msu-usc


No way, I want to keep UK as our perm rival
Posted by Damn Good Dawg
Member since Feb 2011
47325 posts
Posted on 8/13/11 at 10:18 am to
I don't care that you think they're not important, because I'm sure some Bama, Tenner, Aubie, and Georgia fans will outright refute that claim.
Posted by Obi-Wan Tiger
Fulshear TX
Member since Jan 2004
6818 posts
Posted on 8/13/11 at 10:22 am to
quote:

I don't care that you think they're not important, because I'm sure some Bama, Tenner, Aubie, and Georgia fans will outright refute that claim.


It's not that I don't think they're important. But again, what's the point of being in the same conference with someone that you never play. If they can figure out a way to salvage that and still have the traditional rivalries I'm all for it. Hell, I like playing UF every year. I just don't think they can do it fairly with just 8 games.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90738 posts
Posted on 8/13/11 at 10:24 am to
Fairly, is a subjective term. Teams go up, they go down.
Posted by Damn Good Dawg
Member since Feb 2011
47325 posts
Posted on 8/13/11 at 10:26 am to
I understand where youre coming from but LSU and UGA are on different wave lengths when it comes to rivalries. Y'all have 1 or so and can't agree on who is a real rival where as we have pissed enough teams to have about 5 rivals. AU, UF, and GT are too big of traditions for us to just let whither and die.
Posted by Obi-Wan Tiger
Fulshear TX
Member since Jan 2004
6818 posts
Posted on 8/13/11 at 10:31 am to
quote:

AU, UF, and GT are too big of traditions for us to just let whither and die.


Agreed. That's the thing...I respect what you guys have in terms of rivalries. I don't want them to go away. And like I said, I think it could be solved with a 9 game slate (hell even 10 games...this is probably a whole different thread, but marquee OOC games are about to be extinct if the expansion happens. I'd just as soon see 2 more SEC games than Towson or North Texas.)

And what about the non-conference idea? It's not as if UGA and GT are any less rivals even though they play in different conferences.
This post was edited on 8/13/11 at 10:34 am
Posted by 1984Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Apr 2006
7273 posts
Posted on 8/13/11 at 10:35 am to
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Alahunter


Wonder what that guy's screen name is on the Rant ... you know he probably posts here.
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