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re: SEC Defensive Team Stats when the game is within 28 pts (non-garbage time)

Posted on 10/8/20 at 12:09 pm to
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 10/8/20 at 12:09 pm to
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and yet are last in three-and-outs?


Turnovers forced perhaps?

Not getting a 3 and out doesn't mean you aren't getting 4 and out, 5 and out, 6 and out, etc.
This post was edited on 10/8/20 at 12:10 pm
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
54347 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 12:12 pm to
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Opponent 1st Downs Per Drive
1. Georgia (0.77)
2. Alabama (0.82)
3. Mississippi St (1.21)
4. Texas A&M (1.23)
5. Vanderbilt (1.27)
6. Kentucky (1.28)
7. LSU (1.33)
8. South Carolina (1.35)
9. Arkansas (1.39)
10. Tennessee (1.64)
11. Missouri (1.95)
12. Auburn (2.00)
13. Ole Miss (2.17)
14. Florida (2.18)



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% of Opponent Drives Ending in Red Zone Trips
1. Georgia (7.69%)
2. Alabama (18.18%)
2. Vanderbilt (18.18%)
4. Mississippi St (21.43%)
5. Tennesse (22.73%)
6. LSU (25.00%)
7. Texas A&M (27.27%)
8. Arkansas (28.57%)
9. Auburn (33.33%)
10. South Carolina (39.13%)
11. Kentucky (40.00%)
12. Missouri (47.37%)
13. Ole Miss (47.83%)
14. Florida (54.55%)



To be fair, OM and UF played each other, and OM and UF are 2 of the top 3 offenses in the SEC.

Statistically, there isn't another offense on UF's schedule that comes close to OM right now.

But yes - Grantham thus far is a major concern.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
22014 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 12:19 pm to
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Damn. Georgia is looking stout. Bama is not what they used to be.

Now, I'm wondering if having great offense hurts your defense. Don't apply this to LSU though Our defense is middle of the road for now and offense is well... let's just say we're just a level better than being toss dive U.
georgia's defense is good and their offense is kinda garbage. bamas offense is incredibly good and their defense it also quite good, just not up to previous standards. i think ill go with the incredible offense + very good defense vs the incredible defense and okay offense. obviously i would prefer incredible defense and offense, but im not sure thats a possibility with the current rules
Posted by remaster916
Alabama
Member since Oct 2012
13042 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 12:21 pm to
Georgia has played two awful offenses, wonder how they do when they play a real offense.
Posted by diddlydawg7
2x Best Poster Elite 8 (2x Sweet 16
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 10/8/20 at 12:26 pm to
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Georgia has played two awful offenses, wonder how they do when they play a real offense.



Guarantee you Auburn and Arkansas is tougher than A&M and Mizzou
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 10/8/20 at 12:27 pm to
This is surprising to me
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
54347 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 12:27 pm to
A&M is more talented than both Auburn and Arkansas.
Posted by dhuck20
SCLSU Fan
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/8/20 at 12:29 pm to
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Georgia has played two awful offenses, wonder how they do when they play a real offense.
I wouldn't call A&M and Mizzou offensive juggernauts either there, hoss.

A&M's offensive averages actually went up after playing Bama than vs. Vandy.
This post was edited on 10/8/20 at 12:30 pm
Posted by diddlydawg7
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Posted on 10/8/20 at 12:30 pm to
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A&M is more talented than both Auburn and Arkansas.


Auburn will beat and finish the year better than A&M. Guarantee you. I’d also bet Arkansas beats Missouri.
Posted by dhuck20
SCLSU Fan
Member since Oct 2012
23187 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 12:31 pm to
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bamas offense is incredibly good and their defense it also quite good, just not up to previous standards. i think ill go with the incredible offense + very good defense vs the incredible defense and okay offense. obviously i would prefer incredible defense and offense,
Dropping the knowledge on everyone.

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but im not sure thats a possibility with the current rules

Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
54347 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 12:34 pm to
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Auburn will beat and finish the year better than A&M. Guarantee you.


Maybe - but talent wise A&M is the most talented team of the combined teams that UGA and Bama have both played thus far.
Posted by diddlydawg7
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Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 10/8/20 at 12:35 pm to
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Maybe - but talent wise A&M is the most talented team of the combined teams that UGA and Bama have both played thus far


Not sure how that matters. Auburn is a better team.
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
54347 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 12:35 pm to
Auburn is a better team based on what?
Posted by diddlydawg7
2x Best Poster Elite 8 (2x Sweet 16
Member since Oct 2017
29647 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 12:44 pm to
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Auburn is a better team based on what?


It has more to do with how bad A&M is than how good Auburn is. Auburn beat Kentucky, who is actually underrated IMO.

A&M won by 5 against Vandy and their defense was Swiss cheese against Bama. I know Bama is good but to be honest their defense looked even worse than Missouri’s.
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
54347 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 12:45 pm to
So basically you’re dancing around and can’t give a straight answer like Kamala Harris did last night.
This post was edited on 10/8/20 at 12:46 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 12:46 pm to
A&M will get torched by really good passing teams and play well against teams that don't throw as well. They've got pretty good front 7 run defenders but their secondary is bad and they aren't great at rushing the passer.

Been like that for Elko's entire time there.
Posted by diddlydawg7
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Member since Oct 2017
29647 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 12:48 pm to
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So basically you’re dancing around and can’t give a straight answer like Kamala Harris did last night.



What? I just told you. Their defense is bad and their offense is bad. Auburn’s is better offensively and defensively
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
54347 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 12:50 pm to
Their offense is averaging 120+ YPG than Auburns is and Auburn got pushed around by UK team which just got torched by Ole Miss

Auburn beat Kentucky because Kentucky kept shooting themselves in the foot. Not because Auburn did anything special.
Posted by diddlydawg7
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Member since Oct 2017
29647 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 12:54 pm to
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Their offense is averaging 120+ YPG than Auburns is


Might have something to do with Auburn playing the #1 defense in the country.

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Auburn got pushed around by UK team


Who is averaging 471.5 YPG

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which just got torched by Ole Miss


Who could potentially have the best offense in the SEC.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26059 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 12:55 pm to
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Auburn is a better team based on what?


Talent Composite (247) and starters (ourlads).

Their numbers are almost equal.
A&M #10 in nation and #5 in SEC. .8966 avg
Auburn #13 in nation and #6 in SEC. 89.30 avg

The difference is that Auburn has 3 more starters in their 22 that are upperclassmen.

I'm not going to do the legwork. The only other pertinent argument for me that would be relevant is talent/seniority on the offensive and defensive lines.
If A&M has more talent (preseason all-conference lists and/or 247 composite over .9400) in the trenches, then I'd be willing to change my mind.
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