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re: SEC coaches have to learn to coach the modern kids.

Posted on 1/7/25 at 8:16 am to
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
45914 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 8:16 am to
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It's kids who have options and are not afraid to explore them if the coach starts channeling R. Lee Ermey in "Full Metal Jacket" like a lot of old-fart fans who view football as a metaphor for life and a test of manhood want and get off on, rather than a game where you score the most points and you get W's, and you get enough W's you get to play for the big trophy which is the only thing that really should be important and motivating you.


Here is another guy who is calling modern kids quitters. Interesting how you guys are framing it to make the coach the bad guy. Modern kids don't seem to have any faults.
Posted by Riggle
Member since Feb 2013
3960 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 8:16 am to
It's a shame because young people need structure but we've created a system that prevents that
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
44972 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 8:17 am to
Hugh does fine in this situation
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
3669 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 8:50 am to
In this new era, football is a game where you try to get W’s, not a metaphor for life where coaches turn young mush into hard men anymore. Coaches aren’t necessarily bad guys, the world has changed around them. And old fart fans (and I’m pushing 70) who channel the days when their tough as nails high school coaches turned them into men by making them run gassers until they puked 50 years ago are butt hurt by it.
Posted by collegefootballisbroken
Member since Nov 2024
941 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 8:57 am to
This is true. It’s a business now like the NFL. Nothing else matters anymore.
Posted by Landmass
Member since Jun 2013
21074 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 9:03 am to
It's a balance. It's up to the coaches to find the players that have the talent but are also willing to put in the hard work to succeed. Talent without effort will suck. Effort without talent will suck.

Kiffin has done a decent job of getting portal players that are willing to work for it. Some teams evaluate players on talent alone. That's a mistake.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
28129 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 9:09 am to
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and he lost his secret sauce, whatever that was.


We call them Dodge Chargers.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
50333 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 9:12 am to
I don't know if it's modern kids as much as they now have options to transfer and get more money

Kids coming into these programs still want to eventually get to the real money in NFL and let's face it, kids want to represent the home state school majority of the time

Kelly told a player on sideline he was uncoachable and he's staying at LSU, and it helps his girlfriend is at LSU too
Posted by ThoseGuys
Wishing I was back in NC
Member since Nov 2012
2606 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 9:36 am to
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Here is another guy who is calling modern kids quitters. Interesting how you guys are framing it to make the coach the bad guy. Modern kids don't seem to have any faults.


Modern parents suck and it's because their parents were crap. These kids didn't just change in a vacuum. I know it's weird to think about, but kids are shaped by the adults in their life.
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
12448 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 10:28 am to
Careful Sport
Posted by MtVernon
Member since Jul 2024
6450 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 10:32 am to
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I think what you are saying while being afraid to say it, is that modern kids are more inclined to quit on you than non-modern kids.


I might be saying not only inclined, but incentivized to quit on you.

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Posted by N0T SURE
Member since Dec 2023
908 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 11:21 am to
10l win champions of the year!
This post was edited on 1/7/25 at 12:40 pm
Posted by FireDanMullen
Member since Dec 2020
4120 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 11:31 am to
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Saban got out because it became like the NFL and he lost his secret sauce, whatever that was. Think about it - Saban never did great in the NFL, where the playing field is level - he had to get back to college - at places like LSU and Alabama - and where he created his advantage back in the cigar room. Maybe he never was that great of a pure football coach. Who knows.


Whatever “it” was I would prefer honestly. I at least enjoyed watching Great football teams instead of the shite show college football we got this year. Transfer portals, NIL, whatever it is, the quality of product is cut with some terrible additives
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61028 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 1:02 pm to
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Kelly told a player on sideline he was uncoachable 


I remember many trolls here gleefully insisting players hated BK and would leave.
Posted by BevoBucks
H-town
Member since Dec 2022
5788 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 1:16 pm to
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DeBoer looked sick to his stomach 90% of the time he was in the cameras.
It’s taking a toll on a bunch of coaches. Kirby, Pitboss, Stoops & Heupel have all packed on some pounds. Drink & Beamer sound unhinged. BV & Lane look pissed. BK & Hugh come across as hungover & miserable all the time.
Posted by theballguy
Member since Oct 2011
18215 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 1:22 pm to
Kirby's the only coach for a top 20 team I've seen chew some arse this year. NIL be damned. That's what we need. Sunshine and ice cream don't cut it.
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