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re: SEC Bowl Order

Posted on 12/2/19 at 11:15 am to
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 11:15 am to
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4. AU - Cotton


AU has already played in Dallas this year. Cotton Bowl doesn't want AU and AU doesn't want Dallas again.
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
17820 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 11:16 am to
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AU has already played in Dallas this year. Cotton Bowl doesn't want AU and AU doesn't want Dallas again.


Statute of Limitations situation?
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
29715 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 11:18 am to
agree with your assessment 100%

Florida is a pretty clear #3

Auburn and Alabama is a coin flip, edge to Auburn for head to head and strength of schedule
Posted by jlovel7
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
21348 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 11:31 am to
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Ticket sales and tourism. How many UF fans will drive to Miami and leave after the game ?



I've never understood the tourism angle? Why would the orange bowl or the committee care about people booking hotels? Why do they care about anything more than people buying tickets to their game and watching it on tv (which is where I assume the bulk of the $ comes from)?
Posted by dehsloot
Sunshine State
Member since Jul 2015
4051 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 11:33 am to
Sick of playing Wisconsin, but if the game is in Orlando, I will NOT complain.
Posted by jlovel7
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
21348 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 11:34 am to
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It’s not the ranking of the teams that matters, that’s not how it works. The bowl picks the team they want. The ranking is only the order in which the bowls get to pick, not the ranking of the teams. Therefore, it’s whatever team those bowls feel will be the best for the stadium, attendance, and TV.

I would think Orange bowl would pick Bama over any team but UF because UF is in the state and I’d imagine have good attendance? Not sure Bama will have good attendance this year due to the let down?

Then I’d say Bama because they’d be a bigger draw over Auburn. But hard to say.



This is wrong. That's not how it works anymore. The Orange Bowl is the highest ranked non playoff ACC team and/or its champion (if the champion isn't in the playoff) matched up against the highest ranked Big Ten/SEC/Notre Dame team (whichever is highest).
Posted by Lou2theZou
Chicago
Member since Jun 2019
538 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 11:34 am to
Can't wait to play in the Belk Bowl... oh wait!

Hoping for brighter days for the MU football program. Go get em yall, represent the conference well.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 11:39 am to
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I've never understood the tourism angle? Why would the orange bowl or the committee care about people booking hotels? Why do they care about anything more than people buying tickets to their game and watching it on tv (which is where I assume the bulk of the $ comes from)?



Because that is the purpose of the Bowls. The only people who get the TV money are the Bowl Charities and the Administration personnel.
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 12:00 pm to
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AU has already played in Dallas this year. Cotton Bowl doesn't want AU and AU doesn't want Dallas again.


But correct me if I'm wrong...

If Georgia goes to the Sugar and Florida to the Orange.... and if Auburn is ranked higher than Alabama, then the Cotton can't choose to take a lower ranked SEC team. They'd have to choose the one that is ranked higher?

Is that not correct?
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 12:02 pm to
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I've never understood the tourism angle? Why would the orange bowl or the committee care about people booking hotels?


Especially Miami. In January. Have you ever looked at hotel prices in South Florida in January? They have no problem booking those up at high prices and it has nothing to do with college football.

Now a "smaller" city like New Orleans might care. But Miami and Dallas have so many hotel rooms and so many things going on, I don't think hotel rooms are a big deal in the decision process.
This post was edited on 12/2/19 at 12:07 pm
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 12:04 pm to
quote:

I've never understood the tourism angle? Why would the orange bowl or the committee care about people booking hotels? Why do they care about anything more than people buying tickets to their game and watching it on tv (which is where I assume the bulk of the $ comes from)?


Say what? Do you even understand why the bowls exist in the first place?
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 12:05 pm to
quote:

Where's State? Music City?

Yes, sorry, dog.
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 12:05 pm to
quote:

This is wrong. That's not how it works anymore. The Orange Bowl is the highest ranked non playoff ACC team and/or its champion (if the champion isn't in the playoff) matched up against the highest ranked Big Ten/SEC/Notre Dame team (whichever is highest).


Exactly. Which is why I think it will be Florida. It has to be either them or Penn State. But Penn State looked lackluster against Rutgers and the Gators destroyed FSU.... plus that win over Auburn looks much better now.

I think Florida is the top rated SEC/BIG 10 team outside of LSU/OSU/UGA.
Posted by GregAl
Mobile
Member since Aug 2014
3659 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 12:06 pm to
Whoever gets Memphis will have a tough time getting up their bowl game.
Posted by Rhymenoceros
Atlanta, Georgia
Member since Nov 2012
4185 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 12:07 pm to
quote:

I've never understood the tourism angle? Why would the orange bowl or the committee care about people booking hotels? Why do they care about anything more than people buying tickets to their game and watching it on tv (which is where I assume the bulk of the $ comes from)?


I take it you didn’t do very well in Economics class
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
61842 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 12:07 pm to
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The real question is who is that next best team in the SEC? Alabama or Auburn. Yes, Alabama is 10-2 and Auburn is 9-3, but can the committee really rank Alabama ahead of Auburn since Auburn just beat them? They both lost to LSU in close games. The only reason Auburn has an extra loss is because they played Georgia, Florida, and Oregon instead of S. Carolina, Tennessee, and Duke. My gut feeling is that Auburn is ranked #10 tomorrow night and Bama is #11.


This is what should happened but it wont

Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 12:16 pm to
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I take it you didn’t do very well in Economics class


This past January, the three major South Florida airports of Miami, Fort Lauderdale, and WPB combined for over 3.9 million passengers flying into those airports alone.... that's over 125,000 passengers arriving every single day.

A few extra thousand people staying in a hotel room is a drop in the bucket compared to the volume of vacationers down there at any given time... especially the winter months.

I can assure you that Miami has no problem filling hotel rooms around the New Years holiday.

Florida is likely to bring more fans than Alabama anyway. Many may drive home that day, but I would think the Orange Bowl would care more about stadium attendance than hotel rooms.
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 12:20 pm to
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Florida is likely to bring more fans than Alabama anyway. Many may drive home that day, but I would think the Orange Bowl would care more about stadium attendance than hotel rooms.


Actually the bowls themselves can make it without attendance because of the insane TV money these days. It's why you see so many bowls, so poorly attended but they keep adding bowls to the slate.

However, a good bowl committee understands the politics of the community and would work hard to fill the town with people to spend money on hotels, food, entertainment, etc...
This post was edited on 12/2/19 at 12:21 pm
Posted by Uncs
Member since Aug 2008
3080 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 12:21 pm to
I think everyone would love to see OU vs Bama
Posted by UFMatt
Gator Nation - Everywhere
Member since Oct 2010
11493 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 12:24 pm to
I saw somewhere, may or may not be true, that the Orange Bowl only has to honor the ACC tie in if the available team is in the top 25 in the AP poll, If this is true, I would love to see UF vs Notre Dame in the Orange.
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