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re: SEC Basketball All-Time Rankings
Posted on 1/28/21 at 2:00 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Posted on 1/28/21 at 2:00 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Holy shite. Ole Miss is even worse than I thought.
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Posted on 1/28/21 at 2:02 pm to Gary Busey
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Tennessee and Alabama are almost completely identical
They are basically mirror images. Tennessee has 3 more regular season titles, Alabama has 3 more tournament titles.
- Tennessee has 17 combined SEC regular/tourney titles, Alabama has 17 combined SEC regular/tourney titles
- Tennessee has 22 NCAAT, Alabama has 21 NCAAT
- Tennessee has 0 FF, Alabama has 0 FF
- Tennessee has 1 E8, Alabama has 1 E8
- Tennessee has 8 S16, Alabama has 8 S16
- Tennessee's All-Time Win % is 61.7%, Alabama's All-Time Win % is 61.1%
It's wild
Alabama does lead the head to head series 60-47. However, the average score of the series is Alabama 72.1 - Tennessee 71.5, an average margin of 0.7
This post was edited on 1/28/21 at 2:07 pm
Posted on 1/28/21 at 2:03 pm to LSU Patrick
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Holy shite. Ole Miss is even worse than I thought.
They've made it past the 1st round of the NCAAT 3 times. Total. They've made it to the S16 1 time.
Posted on 1/28/21 at 2:04 pm to SummerOfGeorge
That's almost statistically impossible.
Posted on 1/28/21 at 2:05 pm to SummerOfGeorge
1 National Title = 20 Years of Making the tournament.
Way overvalued IMO. 25 would be more appropriate. I don't like the Conference Wins/Losses metric. Some conferences smash others.
Way overvalued IMO. 25 would be more appropriate. I don't like the Conference Wins/Losses metric. Some conferences smash others.
Posted on 1/28/21 at 2:07 pm to TigerAndBadger
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I don't like the Conference Wins/Losses metric. Some conferences smash others.
Need to read. This is for SEC Basketball all-time rankings. What do other conferences have to do with it?
Posted on 1/28/21 at 2:07 pm to TigerAndBadger
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1 National Title = 20 Years of Making the tournament.
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Way overvalued IMO
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25 would be more appropriate
I mean, the difference in 1 in 20 and 1 in 25 is pretty negligible.
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I don't like the Conference Wins/Losses metric. Some conferences smash others.
Which is why it's a pretty tiny piece of the overall number.
Posted on 1/28/21 at 2:08 pm to LSUgrad88
I think he is probably trying to make the case that Mizzou is better because it was in the B12 before.
Posted on 1/28/21 at 2:08 pm to LSUgrad88
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What do other conferences have to do with it?
He's a Missouri fan so I'd assume this is a Big 8 vs SEC thing
Posted on 1/28/21 at 2:16 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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NCAA Tournament Points Only
7. Alabama
Woulda been higher if not for the horrible call vs Indiana in '75 or '76.
I believe Bobby Knight said Bama was the best team they played that year
Posted on 1/28/21 at 2:22 pm to RD Dawg
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Woulda been higher if not for the horrible call vs Indiana in '75 or '76.
I believe Bobby Knight said Bama was the best team they played that year
Definitely got some rough draws and lost some heartbreakers to great teams. Alabama NCAA tournaments ended in losses to the eventual national champions in
- 1976 (Sweet 16) (by 5 to Indiana) (closest game of the tournament for Indiana)
- 1982 (Sweet 16) (by 5 to North Carolina)
- 2004 (Elite 8) (by 16 to UConn)
- 2018 (Round 32) (by 23 to Villanova)
This post was edited on 1/28/21 at 2:23 pm
Posted on 1/28/21 at 3:41 pm to RD Dawg
Interesting, because the toughest loss I ever endured as an LSU basketball fan was the Elite 8 loss to Indiana in 1987. LSU got absolutely screwed the whole game by the officials, who were so intimidated by Knight (that was the game where he punched the phone, among other things). Led the whole way and lost by two in the last minute. Prevented a back to back final four trip, which that year was at the Superdome.
Posted on 1/28/21 at 4:49 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Hurts knowing we had a good shot of making a run in the tournament last year. We could've jumped a place or two in the tourney only category.
Posted on 1/28/21 at 4:53 pm to SummerOfGeorge
How are ball/soul-squashing first-round losses and last -second shots by Tyus Edney factored into this?
Posted on 1/28/21 at 4:55 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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They are basically mirror images. Tennessee has 3 more regular season titles, Alabama has 3 more tournament titles.
- Tennessee has 17 combined SEC regular/tourney titles, Alabama has 17 combined SEC regular/tourney titles
- Tennessee has 22 NCAAT, Alabama has 21 NCAAT
- Tennessee has 0 FF, Alabama has 0 FF
- Tennessee has 1 E8, Alabama has 1 E8
- Tennessee has 8 S16, Alabama has 8 S16
- Tennessee's All-Time Win % is 61.7%, Alabama's All-Time Win % is 61.1%
It's wild
Alabama does lead the head to head series 60-47. However, the average score of the series is Alabama 72.1 - Tennessee 71.5, an average margin of 0.7
All this time we were thinking the rivalry was because of football... clearly, we were thinking of the wrong sport.
Posted on 1/28/21 at 5:31 pm to SummerOfGeorge
How do Ole Miss and Georgia have so few points? Are they well under .500 in conference play or something?
Posted on 1/28/21 at 5:35 pm to SummerOfGeorge
quote:Man their years with Donovan and Meyer were incredible.
So basically their entire history is in the last 30 seasons.
I thought both of them were gonna stay there forever and create a dynasty each.
Meyer would have without a stolen laptop. He wouldn’t have beaten Saban every year but he would have got him a few times. Especially with Cam.
Posted on 1/28/21 at 6:15 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Mizzou has the second-most NCAA tournament appearances without a Final Four bid (25)
26. recent appearance-2008
LINK
This post was edited on 1/28/21 at 6:32 pm
Posted on 1/28/21 at 6:22 pm to SummerOfGeorge
The problem with your system from a historical perspective is that you didn't include the NIT. Sure, the NIT is pretty meaningless now. But winning it...even getting to the final four...used to mean a helluva lot prior to 1975, when there were only 25 teams in the NCAA tournament. Until 1953 there were only 16 teams.
You give a team 6 points for making the Sweet 16. What about making the final four of the NIT in 1950 when there were only 8 teams in the NCAA tournament? That was every bit as great an accomplishment.
You give a team 6 points for making the Sweet 16. What about making the final four of the NIT in 1950 when there were only 8 teams in the NCAA tournament? That was every bit as great an accomplishment.
This post was edited on 1/28/21 at 6:27 pm
Posted on 1/28/21 at 7:07 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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