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re: SDS: Ranking every SEC coaching job in 2016
Posted on 3/14/16 at 11:07 am to RB10
Posted on 3/14/16 at 11:07 am to RB10
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Like others have said, I wouldn't want to be the coach who follows Saban
Sure, pressure would be crazy but its not like they are going to get some dud. AD would have to really screw up the hire.
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Posted on 3/14/16 at 11:45 am to rockiee
You lost me at SDS
Posted on 3/14/16 at 11:51 am to rockiee
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Sure, pressure would be crazy but its not like they are going to get some dud. AD would have to really screw up the hire
He'd inherit a roster stock full of blue chippers but keeping up the same level of success would be extremely difficult and the program would likely begin a yearly decline.
Of course it's possible the next hire is a goldmine himself and Alabama slaps everyone around with an elephant dick for another 15 years.
Posted on 3/14/16 at 11:52 am to rockiee
Considering the factors of coaching pay and in state talent pool, there is no way that Tennessee is a better job than either Texas A&M or LSU.
Posted on 3/14/16 at 11:53 am to rockiee
1. Alabama
2. LSU
3. UF
4. UGA
5. UT
6. OM
7. Auburn
8. Arkansas
9. A&M
10. South Carolina
11. State
12. Kentucky
13. Mizzou
14. Vandy
Alabama & LSU at the top on talent alone. LSU might fall down the list because of the Miles/Alleva shite show at the end of season. Although both teams might fall down the list if the expectations of the alumni & fan bases were taken into account.
2. LSU
3. UF
4. UGA
5. UT
6. OM
7. Auburn
8. Arkansas
9. A&M
10. South Carolina
11. State
12. Kentucky
13. Mizzou
14. Vandy
Alabama & LSU at the top on talent alone. LSU might fall down the list because of the Miles/Alleva shite show at the end of season. Although both teams might fall down the list if the expectations of the alumni & fan bases were taken into account.
This post was edited on 3/14/16 at 11:58 am
Posted on 3/14/16 at 12:06 pm to RB10
I'd put A&M and LSU ahead of Tennessee.
Posted on 3/14/16 at 12:10 pm to rockiee
MSU is on a gravy train with biscuit wheels. Horrible list.
Posted on 3/14/16 at 12:14 pm to rockiee
Tennesse should definitely be lower
Posted on 3/14/16 at 12:29 pm to BowlJackson
Tennessee should be #1 undisputed.
Posted on 3/14/16 at 12:38 pm to Lionnation1993
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But but money and Texas and facilities
Meh, LSU has a better setup being the only major team in a very talented state.
My list would be:
1. Florida
2. LSU
3. Alabama (high standards and a competitive state for talent)
4. Georgia (would be higher but they suddenly got uppity)
5. Texas A&M
6. Auburn
7. Tennessee (without the yearly Bama game they would jump two places)
8. Ole Miss
9. Missouri (underrated job if someone can get talent out of Chicago)
10. South Carolina
11. Arkansas (terrible state for talent)
12. Mississippi State
13. Kentucky
14. Vandy
This post was edited on 3/14/16 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 3/14/16 at 12:41 pm to cardboardboxer
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4. Georgia (would be higher but they suddenly got uppity)
what does this even mean?
Posted on 3/14/16 at 12:42 pm to WG_Dawg
That UGA fired a coach for winning 10 games a year.
I'm pretty sure that's his point, anyways.
I'm pretty sure that's his point, anyways.
Posted on 3/14/16 at 12:43 pm to WG_Dawg
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what does this even mean?
Last year I would have had yall at #2 easily. Huge state with lots of talent with not that demanding of a fanbase.
Then yall fire your coach for a nine win season. Nebraska proved to the world years ago that is how you make your job less attractive.
Posted on 3/14/16 at 12:44 pm to rockiee
Good thing this list doesn't impact on the field performance.
Posted on 3/14/16 at 12:48 pm to cardboardboxer
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Then yall fire your coach for a nine win season. Nebraska proved to the world years ago that is how you make your job less attractive.
I was hoping that's what you meant.
Because it's remarkably easy to refute that point by pointing out that we gave our coach FIFTEEN YEARS on the job before making a move. Also remembering we didn't win the SEC in his last 10 years and didn't go to a BCS bowl in his last 8 years.
UGA has proven BIG TIME that we'll be patient and let a coach show what he can do, unlike some teams who will fire someone after a few years if things aren't great.
Posted on 3/14/16 at 12:53 pm to WG_Dawg
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Because it's remarkably easy to refute that point by pointing out that we gave our coach FIFTEEN YEARS on the job before making a move. Also remembering we didn't win the SEC in his last 10 years and didn't go to a BCS bowl in his last 8 years.
UGA has proven BIG TIME that we'll be patient and let a coach show what he can do, unlike some teams who will fire someone after a few years if things aren't great.
Ya, I think it is foolish to label Georgia fans as unrealistic. Richt had this time to prove he could win big.
Posted on 3/14/16 at 12:59 pm to WG_Dawg
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Because it's remarkably easy to refute that point by pointing out that we gave our coach FIFTEEN YEARS on the job before making a move. Also remembering we didn't win the SEC in his last 10 years and didn't go to a BCS bowl in his last 8 years.
The way you say that makes it sound like UGA barely won six games a year or something. Richt won a higher percentage of games of any coach in program history, and averaged over nine wins a year while at Georgia. Most programs would kill for that level of success.
Richt basically got fired because he wasn't Nick Saban (because no one is).
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UGA has proven BIG TIME that we'll be patient and let a coach show what he can do
No, what UGA has proven is that their expectations for the program are higher than what the program is. Yall expect to be a championship winning level program, even though historically you aren't the best program in your state.
I know that feeling very well- that is also Texas A&M's situation. The difference is we pay Sumlin $5 million a year to deal with our bullshite expectations, while comparatively Richt made chicken scratch. Hell, Kirby isn't even going to make $4 million a year. If UGA had its unrealistic expectations but was willing to pay top dollar it would that would compensate completely.
The problem is UGA is cheap. Cheap on coaches, cheap on facilities (it took HOW long to get a IPF?). But they want the best.
Only UF can swing the be cheap and be the best combo.
Posted on 3/14/16 at 1:17 pm to cardboardboxer
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The way you say that makes it sound like UGA barely won six games a year or something.
I'm quite aware of what richt did when he was here. Does being consistently steady give a coach a lifetime pass? If LSU hadn't won the 07 NC woudl miles still be there simply based on what he did in 2003? Who knows, maybe not.
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Richt basically got fired because he wasn't Nick Saban (because no one is).
No, not really. He was fired for the exact reasons I said above. 10 years with no SEC titles, 8 years with no BCS appearances. It doesn't help things that the league overall is quite a bit better now than it was when he first had his initial success.
I loved Richt. Loved him to death, still do. But the fact is he had 15 years to take the next step and we haven't. I appreciate Donnan for raising us up above what Goff did, and I appreciate Richt for elevating us even further to be better than what Donnan did. Now it's time to take that final step.
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No, what UGA has proven is that their expectations for the program are higher than what the program is.
Lulz. We are a top 12ish football program of all time. We have the 3rd most SEC titles all time. Our expectations fall squarely in line with that. We should not be going 30+ year without a title appearance while clemson, bama, auburn, lsu, florida, fsu, oregon, tennessee, virginia tech, etc all have, and many of them multiple times.
Tell me as an outsider, what exactly should our expectations be?
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Yall expect to be a championship winning level program,
Yeah...and?
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even though historically you aren't the best program in your state.
Well, I wish I had read this sooner because now I realize you're either trolling or you simply don't know what your'e talking about.
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I know that feeling very well- that is also Texas A&M's situation.
A&M isn't even close to being the program we are historically.
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The problem is UGA is cheap. Cheap on coaches, cheap on facilities (it took HOW long to get a IPF?)
Historically yes. Do you not see all of the money we're spending the last few years? We're making a committment to go to the next level. And we're about to have the nicest IPF in america.
People like you don't make any sense. You're the kind of person who will say "same old underachieving UGA..no one does less with more" then when we actually get down to business and start trying to take our program to a championship level, now we have unrealistic expecations.
Posted on 3/14/16 at 1:25 pm to WG_Dawg
SmCkdown #applied. Thunder dome thread imminent.
Posted on 3/14/16 at 1:33 pm to td01241
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SmCkdown #applied.
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