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re: Scott Frost responds to Saban
Posted on 5/17/18 at 10:35 pm to coachcrisp
Posted on 5/17/18 at 10:35 pm to coachcrisp
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I think I can answer the question better if you gave me a specific scenario. I think that being a conference champ is certainly a significant accomplishment for any team or any program. But I also think that sometimes there are circumstances where a team can play really, really well for an entire season.
Are we basing the Playoff on the whole body of work that a team does throughout the year in terms of the teams they beat and the quality opponents they played against, or is it just about one game?
So, when you talk about conference championships, if you play a conference championship, some leagues don’t even have conference championships. So it’s not sort of a fair and equitable way if you’re gonna base that particular group on didn’t play a conference championship. So you’re doing the whole body of work; then it seems a little more reasonable to look at everyone else’s entire body of work when you decide who the best teams are.
Hey, we won a national championship here and didn’t win the SEC. I think in that particular year, LSU and Alabama had the two best teams. So we had to play in the regular season, so we played 9-6. There are 42 guys — somebody wrote an article — that played in the NFL that played on that field that day. So they were two really, really good teams. Well, both teams in the same divisions couldn’t play in the conference championship, so we end up going to the championship game. So, was that the right thing or the wrong thing? I’m sure everybody could debate that. I believe that those were the two best teams.
So it depends on what the goal is.
Oh snap, get em.
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Posted on 5/17/18 at 10:40 pm to AHM21
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Scott Frost responds to Saban
When you read Saban's statements from an objective POV not Bama bias, his argument really collapses on itself when he talks about earning it and playing really, really good teams in tough games and all that crap when his team didn't even win its conference and division and, outside of their final 3 games including the playoff games, did not play really good teams throughout the year. The only reasons Bama even made the playoff was because of its reputation and Saban because it certainly wasn't based off the merits of their season.
Posted on 5/17/18 at 10:54 pm to ThePTExperience1969
Cool story. Who did UCF play prior to auburn that your hanging your hat on? I’ll hang up and wait for you to never give me a good answer. Buh bye now.
Posted on 5/17/18 at 11:08 pm to DoubleDown
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Cool story. Who did UCF play prior to auburn that your hanging your hat on?
Completely missed the point my brother, Saban shouldn't be arguing "really tough teams" and "earning it" in response to UCF when it's questionable whether his team earned its playoff spot off the merits of their season, you know in your heart of hearts they only got in because they're Alabama and Saban not anything else if you say otherwise you're obviously lying to everyone here
Posted on 5/17/18 at 11:09 pm to ThePTExperience1969
you just don't know football never will
Posted on 5/17/18 at 11:26 pm to ThePTExperience1969
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The only reasons Bama even made the playoff was because of its reputation and Saban because it certainly wasn't based off the merits of their season.
Do Ohio State and Urban Meyer not have a reputation? It’s not like Bama got in over UCF or some middling program. If Ohio State doesn’t lose by 30 to Iowa, they’re in the Playoff.
The Playoff has been around for 4 years now. Two of those years a non-Conference Champion has gotten in. Maybe you clowns will finally realize that isn’t a stipulation.
This post was edited on 5/17/18 at 11:28 pm
Posted on 5/17/18 at 11:34 pm to FairhopeTider
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Do Ohio State and Urban Meyer not have a reputation? It’s not like Bama got in over UCF or some middling program. If Ohio State doesn’t lose by 30 to Iowa, they’re in the Playoff.
The Playoff has been around for 4 years now. Two of those years a non-Conference Champion has gotten in. Maybe you clowns will finally realize that isn’t a stipulation.
Y'all keep missing the point, the point is Saban's argument collapsed on itself because by no stretch did Alabama earn anything by playing their weakass SOS and losing their only really tough game of the season that determined the SEC West and basically the SEC Champion though Georgia won that game. All he had to say was that Bama won those playoff games, Bama won the title game, Bama was recognized as natty champ and UCF was not and that be it, don't dig a hole that empowers the other side to shoot holes in your argument and make you look stupid.
Posted on 5/17/18 at 11:45 pm to AHM21
Scott Frost just gained respect in my book
Posted on 5/18/18 at 7:31 am to rolltide1283
Minnesota won three in a row in the 1930s.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 7:42 am to SAINTS0321
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for every bogus 1941 there is a stolen 66 75 77
'41 is an embarrassment to claim...I can't make an argument for '75 as I think Oklahoma had the stronger team and the stronger claim...
I do think there's a strong argument for both '66 and '77 as being 'stolen'...but that doesn't change the poll results so still can't count 'em...
Posted on 5/18/18 at 7:51 am to OldPete
Amen. No one on their right mind is questioning whether Bama has the most legitimate championship of any team. By claiming more it just creates doubt to the value of any of them.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 7:54 am to ThePTExperience1969
quote:No. It's you who misses the point. Alabama was a 1-loss team that came out of the Western Division of the SEC. Count the # of teams on their schedule that played in bowls. You incorrectly discount an FSU team that WAS a contender before losing their QB with no reliable backup.
Y'all keep missing the point, the point is Saban's argument collapsed on itself because by no stretch did Alabama earn anything by playing their weakass SOS and losing their only really tough game of the season that determined the SEC West and basically the SEC Champion though Georgia won that game. All he had to say was that Bama won those playoff games, Bama won the title game, Bama was recognized as natty champ and UCF was not and that be it, don't dig a hole that empowers the other side to shoot holes in your argument and make you look stupid.
Who do you think should have been selected before Alabama?...Ohio State?..a team that Oklahoma and IOWA literally CRUSHED?
Only a fool would argue that a team that WON a tournament or playoff designed to determine the best team in the country, shouldn't have played in it to begin with!
Posted on 5/18/18 at 7:58 am to AHM21
Frost not bending the knee. He knows he won the National Championship this year.
Congrats to UCF.
UCF>AU>UA
Congrats to UCF.
UCF>AU>UA
Posted on 5/18/18 at 8:00 am to Prometheus
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He knows he won the National Championship this year.
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"All I'll say is if we had stayed there, I would have had a hard time getting behind it," he says. "I think it was smart by them, because it has kept UCF in the media and in the conversation. But you know, like our rings, I kind of wish my ring just said 'Undefeated Season' and 'Peach Bowl Champion.'"
Posted on 5/18/18 at 8:19 am to BammerDelendaEst
quote:As usual you're full of shite. ND was crowned by (AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI), all the major polls and MSU by NFF.
Notre Dame wasn’t the national champion. Michigan State was.
If #1 and #2 play to a tie, why should #3 jump either one of them?
If your bitch is that the polls were biased against Alabama, fine, but just come out and say so.
My point (not bitch) was that Alabama can legitimately claims titles they weren't awarded to offset dubious claims of titles that were.
The bottomline to all this is Alabama has been national football champions a shite-load of times, and most other schools haven't...it's that simple.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 8:22 am to Drizzt
quote:Well take your crayon and color him in then!
Scott Frost just gained respect in my book
Posted on 5/18/18 at 8:26 am to coachcrisp
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My bitch was that Alabama can legitimately claims titles they weren't awarded to offset dubious claims of titles that were.
True
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The bottomline to all this is Alabama has been national football champions a shite-load of times and I am entitled to claim several more cause my t-shirt tells me I can,
Also true
Posted on 5/18/18 at 8:34 am to BammerDelendaEst
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Minnesota won three in a row in the 1930s.
Only one of those was during the poll era (1936), although I think it likely if the polls had been in effect in '34 and '35, Minnesota would've probably been their choice...no team has won more than 2 in a row during the poll era...
If you're counting the pre-poll era, several other teams matched or surpassed three in a row; Cal, Michigan, and Yale to name a few...
This post was edited on 5/18/18 at 8:39 am
Posted on 5/18/18 at 8:38 am to NoMansLand
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The bottomline to all this is Alabama has been national football champions a shite-load of times and I am entitled to claim several more cause my t-shirt tells me I can,
Also true
Thanks! for a second I thought I was gonna have to go out and buy a bunch of new t-shirts.Posted on 5/18/18 at 8:48 am to coachcrisp
You’re cool/sometimes reasonable.
I guess I would compare a Bama’s fan delimma like a guy with a 12-incher that has to brag about having an 18-incher. Goes from women lining up to can’t get a date.
I guess I would compare a Bama’s fan delimma like a guy with a 12-incher that has to brag about having an 18-incher. Goes from women lining up to can’t get a date.
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