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Posted on 7/23/21 at 10:13 pm to viceman
Posted on 7/23/21 at 10:13 pm to viceman
With 16 teams that includes LSU, Bama, Auburn, UGA, OU, Texas, and Florida, smart scheduling will guarantee a marquee matchup every week.
Like I said, only LSU would lose out on rivalry games. LSU/Bama is not irreplaceable. Bama/OU-LSU-Tex roation, Bama/UF (yearly), Bama/UGA (yearly) easily will make up for the loss.
Like I said, only LSU would lose out on rivalry games. LSU/Bama is not irreplaceable. Bama/OU-LSU-Tex roation, Bama/UF (yearly), Bama/UGA (yearly) easily will make up for the loss.
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Posted on 7/23/21 at 10:15 pm to southernboisb
16 teams and 9 conference games. There's going to be a lack of common opponents any way you slice it. May as well preserve as many rivalries as possible.
Posted on 7/23/21 at 10:22 pm to Locoguan0
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LSU/Bama is not irreplaceable.
It is the game that got us the big tv contracts which is why such historic programs want to join now. Certainly not the only big game on our schedule but LSU/Bama is the bread and butter that got us here. Seems foolish to end it.
Posted on 7/23/21 at 10:23 pm to bah7tea
Not really. I've got a plan in another thread where each team has 6 annual games & rotates 3. If you can't keep your must played games in those 6 slots, don't know what to tell you.
&, my plan is sort of like the division format in that 8 teams will share 7 common opponents each year.
I'll gladly explain (or you can check here).
This also alleviates the puzzlement of "I'm not in the pod with ______ school".
&, my plan is sort of like the division format in that 8 teams will share 7 common opponents each year.
I'll gladly explain (or you can check here).
This also alleviates the puzzlement of "I'm not in the pod with ______ school".
This post was edited on 7/23/21 at 10:24 pm
Posted on 7/23/21 at 10:29 pm to southernboisb
So you complete a home and away cycle with every team in the SEC every six years? A given football player will never play in six SEC stadiums during a four year career?
Sounds awful.
Sounds awful.
Posted on 7/23/21 at 10:29 pm to bah7tea
How does it sound awful? You've created a full H/H rotation in 6 years (compared to the 8 using only divisions); if you're not in the same pod with somebody, you've got 3 slots to keep that must play game; no tiebreakers need to be created due to your pod plays each other & everybody in that year's paired pod (giving you 7 common opponent games to rank 8 teams); by rotating the yearly paired pods, you shuffle the SECCG opponents in that no repeats can occur except for every 3 years.
&, to go back to it, you'll play every school in 3 years & 4 schools H/A in 4, 8 in 5, & the other 12 in 6.
Personally, I don't find any downside to this since it's pretty easy to follow.
&, to go back to it, you'll play every school in 3 years & 4 schools H/A in 4, 8 in 5, & the other 12 in 6.
Personally, I don't find any downside to this since it's pretty easy to follow.
This post was edited on 7/27/21 at 4:29 pm
Posted on 7/23/21 at 10:43 pm to viceman
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It is the game that got us the big tv contracts which is why such historic programs want to join now. Certainly not the only big game on our schedule but LSU/Bama is the bread and butter that got us here. Seems foolish to end it.
Viceman: You didn't answer my question, How do you have 2 Divisions and Keep Bama in the West and maintain the 2 of the 4 non-negotiable games that have impacted Scheduling since the original expansion of 1992, i.e. Bama/Auburn and Bama/TENN.
You said geography will not matter, I don't think that will work this time.
Posted on 7/23/21 at 10:48 pm to southernboisb
I still fail to see how the '3+6' model with tailored rivalries (different from pods) isn't the best option. You can mix and match your own three annual opponents however you like but here is the general idea. This is just the best combo of teams based on feedback from a previous post.
Even Years: 3 Annual Opponents (Yellow) + 6 Rotating (Light Blue)
Odd Years: 3 Annual Opponents (Yellow) + 6 Rotating (Dark Blue)
Even Years: 3 Annual Opponents (Yellow) + 6 Rotating (Light Blue)
Odd Years: 3 Annual Opponents (Yellow) + 6 Rotating (Dark Blue)
Posted on 7/23/21 at 10:52 pm to ChadThundercock
Because this requires the creating of tie-breakers to sort teams due to their lack of common opponents.
Say Teams A, B, & C all went 6-3.
A & B share 3 common opponents.
B & C share 2 common opponents.
A & C share only 1 common opponent.
WHO is placed over whom?
Say Teams A, B, & C all went 6-3.
A & B share 3 common opponents.
B & C share 2 common opponents.
A & C share only 1 common opponent.
WHO is placed over whom?
Posted on 7/23/21 at 10:53 pm to ChadThundercock
Beautiful graphic, this is really the best.
Posted on 7/23/21 at 10:54 pm to southernboisb
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Not really. I've got a plan in another thread where each team has 6 annual games & rotates 3. If you can't keep your must played games in those 6 slots, don't know what to tell you.
&, my plan is sort of like the division format in that 8 teams will share 7 common opponents each year.
I'll gladly explain (or you can check here).
This also alleviates the puzzlement of "I'm not in the pod with ______ school".
Yours is good, I went and checked it out.
I thought of something similar as well. I think yours keeps all the traditional rival games in tact as best you can.
Posted on 7/23/21 at 10:58 pm to southernboisb
The SEC already has tiebreaker rules, it's not rocket science. And 3+6 scheduling preserves rivalries and completes an H/H cycle with every team in four years. Perfection.
Posted on 7/23/21 at 10:59 pm to southernboisb
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WHO is placed over whom?
Truthfully, I'm not sure why there can't just be a shared conference title like how it was done for 50 years prior, or how basketball does it now. But if an aggregate is needed to determine a tiebreaker then you could prioritize the following:
1.) Result of head-to-head matchup.
2.) Record against common opponents.
3.) Point difference between common opponents.
4.) AP or CFP rankings.
I wouldn't know in your situation you gave because I don't know what the records are against the common opponents you mentioned.
Posted on 7/23/21 at 11:01 pm to southernboisb
If it happens and we end up a 16 team conference go with north,south,east,west. Pods is stupid. Use the NFL scheduling formula (minor adjustment) so everyone plays each other
Posted on 7/23/21 at 11:03 pm to lsubuddy
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If it happens and we end up a 16 team conference go with north,south,east,west. Pods is stupid. Use the NFL scheduling formula (minor adjustment) so everyone plays each other
How with 9 game league schedule? The best you can do is what was proposed above, everybody plays everyone else twice (hom and Home) within 4 years.
This post was edited on 7/23/21 at 11:04 pm
Posted on 7/23/21 at 11:33 pm to viceman
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I mean is it really fair for them to play Bama, OU, Tex, and UF every year?
Since when has this process been about what’s fair for a particular school?
Posted on 7/23/21 at 11:44 pm to Bama Bird
BAMA vs LSU will happen every year.
In ATL or DFW in the Champ Game.
/thread
In ATL or DFW in the Champ Game.
/thread
Posted on 7/23/21 at 11:49 pm to JKChesterton
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You said geography will not matter, I don't think that will work this time.
I did and said I don't know. Geography didn't matter last time. I could easily see them having OU play in the east, like Mizzou before they would give up the annual LSU/Bama game.
Posted on 7/27/21 at 4:22 pm to ChadThundercock
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ChadThundercock
Scheduling Thread
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WHO is placed over whom?
Truthfully, I'm not sure why there can't just be a shared conference title like how it was done for 50 years prior, or how basketball does it now. But if an aggregate is needed to determine a tiebreaker then you could prioritize the following:
1.) Result of head-to-head matchup.
2.) Record against common opponents.
3.) Point difference between common opponents.
4.) AP or CFP rankings.
I wouldn't know in your situation you gave because I don't know what the records are against the common opponents you mentioned.
We're not talking about conference titles. We're talking about sorting teams (possibly to decide who competes in the SECCG).
A & B share 3 common opponents (but didn't play each other).
B & C share only 2 common opponents (but didn't play each other).
A & C share just 1 common opponent (but didn't play each other).
Yet they're all 6-3.
This post was edited on 7/27/21 at 4:23 pm
Posted on 7/27/21 at 4:26 pm to JKChesterton
I told you it sounds complicated, but actually it's the easiest to follow, keep practically all major games on the yearly schedule, & easily sorts each set of 8 teams to see who goes to the SECCG. 
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