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Posted on 11/2/25 at 9:52 am to BCreed1
I would say the parity is better which makes for a way more entertaining regular season
Posted on 11/2/25 at 9:54 am to Lucky_Stryke
Ohio State is funded by meth money. Everyone needs to know this.
Posted on 11/2/25 at 9:56 am to Lucky_Stryke
quote:its also about evaluating talent but money has definitely changed the equation. I think an easy fix would be to change the portal rules. Only 1 move and if its to a team in your conference you have to sit out a year. Money will still be a factor but this would limit its effects.
it's about who has more money.
Posted on 11/2/25 at 10:00 am to Lucky_Stryke
The other teams in the B1G will catch up.
I believe the main reason NIL has helped spread the talent around is the elimination of the bag man under the table money drops. Some schools were not only more willing to deploy bag men in the past, they were also better at it.
Now everyone can pay players out in the open. The talent will spread out among the teams looking for money AND playing time.
I believe the main reason NIL has helped spread the talent around is the elimination of the bag man under the table money drops. Some schools were not only more willing to deploy bag men in the past, they were also better at it.
Now everyone can pay players out in the open. The talent will spread out among the teams looking for money AND playing time.
Posted on 11/2/25 at 10:07 am to NWLA_Bama
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Its watered down the SEC. Whereas it has strengthened the Big 10. The SEC not only has lost talent from the conference but the talent that stayed is now spread out throughout the conference. Its why there's no real dominating team in the conference. They all have obvious flaws. Winning a NC for the SEC is now exponentially harder.
I don't really buy this to be honest. I don't think teams are better for this reason because the recruiting rankings aren't really changing.
Let's take a peak at Vandy for example. People claim Vandy is good because of NIL. But here is what they actually do in recruiting:
2023: #53
2024: #42
2025: #51
They aren't pulling in top25 talent.
Meanwhile Arkansas:
2023: #27
2024: #28
2025: #32
Yet Vandy is much better than Arkansas.
Ole Miss, another team that is doing better than normal:
2023: #17
2024: #17
2025: #16
Now, let's go back 10 years.
2015:
Ole Miss: #16
Vandy: #45
Arkansas: #22
I'm just not seeing real changes in talent. I do however see a difference in coaching and also a difference in player development. Vandy and Ole Miss coaching has improved.
Posted on 11/2/25 at 10:11 am to Lonnie Utah
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Easy to say when your team is winning.
You don't see MsSt, Arky, SC or Auburn fans saying the product is better.
You haven't found most of these SEC games entertaining, win or lose?
The OP is spot on. This has been the best weekly football television, pro or college, maybe ever.
Posted on 11/2/25 at 10:20 am to Mizz-SEC
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You haven't found most of these SEC games entertaining, win or lose?
The OP is spot on. This has been the best weekly football television, pro or college, maybe ever.
What is it you see that is actually different?
Posted on 11/2/25 at 10:26 am to Bamafig
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Not today, but seeing what Vandy, TTU, and others have done overnight, should give them hope.
I do not think even the MSU fans are upset. That's a team that could be 8-1 right now.
I Ark was better than the product and it is a coaching issue, make the change.
Auburn, the fans are creating chaos. How many coaches have they had in the past 5 years?
Posted on 11/2/25 at 10:32 am to 3down10
That's very misleading.
You are going by regular recruiting. Why did you leave out Ole Miss bringing in 3 top portal recruiting rankings. That's where the money is being spent.
In those years you used, Ole Miss had the #1, #2, and #4 portal classes
You are going by regular recruiting. Why did you leave out Ole Miss bringing in 3 top portal recruiting rankings. That's where the money is being spent.
In those years you used, Ole Miss had the #1, #2, and #4 portal classes
Posted on 11/2/25 at 10:49 am to BCreed1
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That's very misleading.
You are going by regular recruiting. Why did you leave out Ole Miss bringing in 3 top portal recruiting rankings. That's where the money is being spent.
In those years you used, Ole Miss had the #1, #2, and #4 portal classes
I went by overall which includes recruits and transfers.
Posted on 11/2/25 at 10:54 am to BCreed1
Parity is better but quality is worse. The SEC feels like a case of who can be the least mediocre.
Posted on 11/2/25 at 10:55 am to BCreed1
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Everybody can win
Ummmmm
About that
Posted on 11/2/25 at 10:56 am to Lonnie Utah
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You don't see MsSt, Arky, SC or Auburn fans saying the product is better.
It's obviously more competitive because of NIL. Just about anyone in the SEC has a chance every Saturday now.
Posted on 11/2/25 at 11:12 am to BCreed1
The same old teams are emerging as the only ones capable of winning a natty and anything short of the playoffs is a disappointment. I don’t know by what measure it’s better. Indiana and ATM may break the model and win it all this year but it’s more likely to be Ohio State, Alabama, Oregon or even half a game playing UGA….
Posted on 11/2/25 at 11:28 am to 3down10
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I went by overall which includes recruits and transfers.
And that doesn't tell the story. Example, Ole miss:
2023: 14... four star players in the transfer portal. Had those been calculated in the "normal" recruiting, That would have been a haul of One 5 star and 18 four stars.
In that season that would have placed them at #5 in the nation. Lsu holds that sport in 2023 with 1 Five Star and 17 FOUR stars.
In other words, the method used is flawed.
2024: 1 FIVE star, and 18 Four stars again. That would be good enough for a top 10 class.
EDIT to add this. Another aspect that the 247 model does not account for is the depth that teams now have.
You use their model that Ole Miss is #17 in the nation in recruiting. But what 17 now means is a 5 star and 18x 4stars. In 2019, 17th meant 10x 4 stars.
And guess what. Only 11 at a time can line up.
This post was edited on 11/2/25 at 11:35 am
Posted on 11/2/25 at 11:44 am to BCreed1
You'll never make him understand.
Fact is that you only need a total of 45 really good players. The other 40 players almost never see the field.
But besides that, a former 3 star who went to Arkansas and than started two years is probably a better player right now than a current hs 4 star with no experience at all.
Simply because a 18 4 star lb straight from HS will probably get his arse kicked by the 21 year old junior who already started against other SEC 21 year olds.
Loading up on HS is a huge money sink as well. You have to pay 4 star salary while they sit and develop 2 years.
Much smarter to just load up on proven college players in the portal and spend your money on players who can play NOW.
Fact is that you only need a total of 45 really good players. The other 40 players almost never see the field.
But besides that, a former 3 star who went to Arkansas and than started two years is probably a better player right now than a current hs 4 star with no experience at all.
Simply because a 18 4 star lb straight from HS will probably get his arse kicked by the 21 year old junior who already started against other SEC 21 year olds.
Loading up on HS is a huge money sink as well. You have to pay 4 star salary while they sit and develop 2 years.
Much smarter to just load up on proven college players in the portal and spend your money on players who can play NOW.
Posted on 11/2/25 at 11:45 am to NickPapageorgio
No team is great. Once again, the NFL.
Posted on 11/2/25 at 11:53 am to NobodyImportant
Its very much like the NFL. Roster building within a budget makes talent evaluation more important than ever.
Its becoming a Coach plus QB league very similar to the way the NFL works.
The top coaches are even more important in college than the NFL imo at this point due to you can't get a qb and keep him a decade plus.
Administration organization and the head coach are the key ingredients today. If you have those things you can get enough talent to compete even if you are in Oregon and 750 miles from any sort of HS recruiting grounds.
Its becoming a Coach plus QB league very similar to the way the NFL works.
The top coaches are even more important in college than the NFL imo at this point due to you can't get a qb and keep him a decade plus.
Administration organization and the head coach are the key ingredients today. If you have those things you can get enough talent to compete even if you are in Oregon and 750 miles from any sort of HS recruiting grounds.
Posted on 11/2/25 at 11:54 am to NickPapageorgio
Soon every team will have a GM. Coaching matters
This post was edited on 11/2/25 at 11:57 am
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