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Satellite camps, if any other coach tweets this, it's major headlines

Posted on 4/11/16 at 9:26 am
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42640 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 9:26 am
David Shaw says no reason for satellite camps "where there might be one person in the entire state that's eligible to get into Stanford."

Kind of a shot at a certain class of players!
Posted by cbi8
Nashville
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 9:28 am to
Savage
Posted by Pygthagorean Theorem
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 9:29 am to
In MS, it would probably be 0
Posted by Dore5674
Nashville
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 9:31 am to
Well its a fair point for the HC at Stanford to make.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 9:33 am to
Well, that certainly won't help Stanford recruit the south.

ETA: Can more coaches outside of the south come out and say things like this? I'd like to keep our athletes down here.
This post was edited on 4/11/16 at 9:34 am
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37299 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 9:33 am to
that's a nice truthful zinger.
Posted by DuncanIdaho
Ouray, CO
Member since Feb 2013
14970 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 9:33 am to
Yep
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
46492 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 9:33 am to
Well he's not wrong Stanford is both parts fascinating and unmatchable in what it's athletics programs can do because of the marriage between its high academic prestige and membership in a P5 conference. I swear the NCAA just wishes all colleges and programs were Stanford (at least that's how it treats every program and their players)
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 9:35 am to
quote:

that's a nice truthful zinger.


There isn't a state in this country where only 1 or 2 people could attend Stanford.
This post was edited on 4/11/16 at 9:35 am
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 9:35 am to
quote:

In MS, it would probably be 0


It is definitely zero.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70919 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 9:40 am to
I agree that he's a douche nozzle but you should post the entire quote as it reads at least a little differently.
Posted by airfernando
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 9:40 am to
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There isn't a state in this country where only 1 or 2 people could attend Stanford.
probably not even a county/parish, much less a state.
This post was edited on 4/11/16 at 9:41 am
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
23830 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 9:40 am to
quote:

Well, that certainly won't help Stanford recruit the south.

ETA: Can more coaches outside of the south come out and say things like this? I'd like to keep our athletes down here.


Well he is right. I always admired Stanford not lowering standards to get a lot of good players. Their guys can kick your arse in the Rose Bowl or the Brain Bowl.
Posted by Thurber
NWLA
Member since Aug 2013
15402 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 9:41 am to
he has got a point
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 9:44 am to
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not lowering standards to get a lot of good players

You do realize their football players are not held to the same standard as other applicants, right? It's not as low of a threshold as other schools, but it's been shown that many of their football students are in the bottom 5-10% of their student base in almost every category (standardized tests, GPA, etc.) LINK

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But this is not actually true. Although we do not have comprehensive statistics comparing athletic admits to regular admits, some data does exist. Looking at a group of 10 elite colleges and using SAT scores (on the 1600 point scale) as a proxy for academic ability, Princeton researchers found that being a recruited athlete gave an admissions boost equivalent to scoring 200 points higher on the SAT. We can also look at high school scouting reports for football players. Looking at the Stanford recruitment class of 2009 (this year was quite typical in terms of test scores), the median football player who reported scores got an 1800 out of 2400 on the SAT and 26 on the ACT. Based on university statistics, this puts the football median comfortably in the bottom quartile and likely somewhere in the bottom 10 percent in terms of test scores. Stanford football players are quite smart, but the data suggests they place near the bottom of Stanford’s admits.
This post was edited on 4/11/16 at 9:48 am
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 9:45 am to
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In MS, it would probably be 0


you don't know shite. a knew a guy once that talked like a real Mississippi cornball and made the same mistake you did; assumed he wasn't very smart.

turned out the guy was a Rhodes scholar. he just kept his accent. he also married a Brit when he over there. it was hilarious to be with them; the MS redneck vs the British snob.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:00 am to
quote:

that's a nice truthful zinger.



It is? His own actions say otherwise.

According to 247, in 2016 alone they offered players from:

Alabama - 2
Louisiana - 2
Texas - 18
Georgia - 9
Florida - 6
Arkansas - 1
Tennessee - 2
Missouri - 1

They only offered 12 to kids from California.

I guess you could assume he's saying he wouldn't see value in holding camps in Mississippi, South Carolina, and Kentucky. That's probably true, but it would be due to the relative lack of football as opposed to academic talent.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:01 am to
Dayum
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34336 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:02 am to
quote:

I swear the NCAA just wishes all colleges and programs were Stanford (at least that's how it treats every program and their players)


That is a good point. Stanford is the archetype of how "the system is supposed to work."
Posted by UKWildcats
Lexington, KY
Member since Mar 2015
17189 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:06 am to
quote:

I guess you could assume he's saying he wouldn't see value in holding camps in Mississippi, South Carolina, and Kentucky. That's probably true, but it would be due to the relative lack of football as opposed to academic talent.
Bingo. Plenty of academic qualifiers in Lexington and Louisville alone. It's the football ability that would limit the number of eligible people we have in this state.
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