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re: SARK frickING SUCKS

Posted on 9/17/25 at 9:09 am to
Posted by MtVernon
Member since Jul 2024
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Posted on 9/17/25 at 9:09 am to
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he didn't have these problems last year


Real life past analogy - when I was "Assistant" Plant Manager, I was free-wheeling, no apprehension, setting things up, knocking them down, etc..

Then when I became THE Plant Manager.... oh shite... all this shite hinges on me. I got more contained, more discerning, overthinking, and in my opinion - not as effective.

So it can happen now that Arch knows HE'S the guy.
Posted by MtVernon
Member since Jul 2024
10238 posts
Posted on 9/17/25 at 9:10 am to
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Has he done so or has he been coddled?


Let's not kid ourselves to think that Arch Manning has never been coddled (not even the least bit) while at Texas.
Posted by MtVernon
Member since Jul 2024
10238 posts
Posted on 9/17/25 at 9:13 am to
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I don't know if you watched the last 2 years but our offense struggled in most games with a veteran QB


This is the part everybody is racing past. Texas offense has never been great under Sark. Struggles were regular. We stalled inside the 5 way before Arch came around. Not even close to championship caliber. Defense? Yes.
Posted by bamaoldtimer
Member since Dec 2009
1627 posts
Posted on 9/17/25 at 9:26 am to
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The yips are a funny thing, and you usually see it in baseball, not football.



As a little league allstar, starting high school pitcher, I completely agree with your analysis.

When I was on, I was zoned in. When my pitches started flying around, my confidence level got shaky. My best pitching was when I did not over think and just let fly and zoned in.

I agree, let Arch call the first quarter plays. Let him analyze the defense and let him talk to his offensive. Let him say in the huddle, “ ok guys, what play should we run?”

Would be interesting to see results.
Posted by Rodo
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
1626 posts
Posted on 9/17/25 at 9:31 am to
Sark is not a bum. His record over the past several years speaks for itself and he did have to dig his way out of the Herman hole. You sound like you expect perfection, a standard that doesn't exist or at least is exceedingly rare. We'd all like to have the second coming of Nick Saban as our coach but it ain't going to happen.

Having said that, Sark is very likely going to be faced with a coaching decision that may effect his tenure. How long does he stay with Manning and put the season at risk. Not easy and I don't envy him.

Rodo
Posted by JacieNY
Member since Jul 2024
1654 posts
Posted on 9/17/25 at 9:41 am to
We'd all like to have the second coming of Nick Saban as our coach

Every school tries to hire a winner but few succeed and the pressure on every hire at Texas has always been to deliver a National Championship or get out of town because good is not good enough.

Couple that with the sense of entitlement almost every kid who donned their uniform has and it is easy to see how the program collapses inward under the weight of an unrealistically short timeline and unmet expectations.

When you hear or read the orange faithful say "We're Texas!" you know right away whoever is the HC has till the end of the current season to produce or he's collecting his buyout.
Posted by hookem33
Belton, Tx
Member since Jun 2022
2550 posts
Posted on 9/17/25 at 9:42 am to
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A curse that brought him more money at 18 than 99+% of American families will see in their lifetimes.


True but that serves to only increase the pressure on him.
Posted by EulerRules
Member since Dec 2019
1838 posts
Posted on 9/17/25 at 9:44 am to
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He will always have that target on him because of his last name. It really is a curse.


It’s only a “curse” if the person thinks it’s a curse. Though high expectations come from outside (and maybe from Arch himself), the “pressure” is all self-induced. Some people have the psychological make-up of champions and they thrive in demanding situations, whatever their occupation is (combat infantry, surgeon, court lawyer, etc); others do not. Those who fail often do so because they are not prepared and so don’t have the self-confidence. This especially hits hard on people who have not experienced failure. When they do experience unexpected failure (UTEP was a failure), people have to acknowledge the problem (Arch has done this, a narcissist would have blamed someone else), reassess their own capabilities, and not lose confidence, but motivate themselves to improve (it seems Arch has done this also). He also needs to realize that he needs help (whether it’s reading defenses, knowing their offense better, etc, as AZ noted). It seems to me he is crying out for help. Speaking with admittedly limited knowledge of Arch’s situation, it appears he needs better technical preparation and, as BigBro pointed out, psychological help (at least in the short term).
Posted by Whentheleveebreaks
Member since Aug 2020
2780 posts
Posted on 9/17/25 at 9:48 am to
I just think he has been coddled too much. And it’s not just Sark doing it. It appears it’s his family doing it the most.

Him not going to the elite 11 camp was telling. It would have helped him learn to start managing the pressure and expectations associated with his last name.
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
19569 posts
Posted on 9/17/25 at 10:05 am to
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Every school tries to hire a winner but few succeed and the pressure on every hire at Texas has always been to deliver a National Championship or get out of town because good is not good enough.

While true, that isn't where I am at all.

I'm guessing Sark thinks that Arch has all of the tools to succeed in his offense.. There are a ton of open receivers and Arch simply isn't playing a simple game of catch with them. At some point, Sark will have to make the decision to either pull him or pray that he bounces out of it.

It's very unlikely that Caldwell, Owens or Lacy can help this team make the playoffs this year.. not against the good teams on our schedule. If that is the case, you almost have to ride Arch until the wheels fall off, and to be honest, they are about to fall off..

Sitting him.. pulling him.. just cements the problem in his head and that makes it 100x worse if/when he is called back into the game.. It's a hard spot for a coach, any coach..

Arch doesn't have to play at a Heisman level for this Texas team to be really, really good. He just has to play a little bit better, a little more consistent, but that isn't guaranteed to ever happen this year, and it may never happen.

As I said before, I'd let Arch call the plays against Sam Houston. It's not a traditional approach, but perhaps they can do something and make the game fun for him. shite, run the wishbone and a lot of trick plays.. Something, anything to get his mind off of making every single throw.

And if none of that works, run the Read Option or the wishbone, and hope that something good happens. The defense is good enough to win a lot of games.
Posted by EulerRules
Member since Dec 2019
1838 posts
Posted on 9/17/25 at 10:11 am to
Coddling doesn’t help one develop self-confidence. Personally I grew up with 9 siblings (I am #7); there was no coddling from my parents. You also learn quickly what your strengths and weaknesses are with that many siblings. Excuses were not tolerated. If you failed, then you worked to improve. If you succeeded, you didn’t dare gloat. As Will Munny said, “A man’s got to know his limitations.” Once you learn who and what you are, then self-confidence follows because you don’t bite off more than you can chew.
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
19569 posts
Posted on 9/17/25 at 10:12 am to
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I just think he has been coddled too much. And it’s not just Sark doing it. It appears it’s his family doing it the most.

Him not going to the elite 11 camp was telling. It would have helped him learn to start managing the pressure and expectations associated with his last name.

He didn't go to the Elite 11 Camps because they are direct competition for his family's business. I'm not saying I agree with it, but that is the reason I have been told by someone who would know.

IMO, he is trying to be perfect and not make mistakes, instead of just playing the position knowing that mistakes will be made. The problem is in his head. It's as simple as that.
Posted by menu2
Member since Apr 2025
1595 posts
Posted on 9/17/25 at 10:22 am to
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If you don’t know what I mean by that then there is no point in arguing. It’s all about the culture.
I do know what you mean. You’re just wrong

You cannot seriously state that the culture hasn’t changed night and day from when Sarkisian arrived to what it is now
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We all agree something is not right. It’s not our job to fix it.
like I said: agree with you there. Most obvious is redzone efficiency which can be fixed by playcalling. And sark needs to relieve himself of those duties and hire someone
Posted by JellyRoll
Member since Apr 2024
1409 posts
Posted on 9/17/25 at 10:25 am to
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If you can't figure out with doggy doo snow cone OL play that's why Arch got hurt vs OSU.

The root issue is Sark and that part has not been fixed.



So this was an OP designed to make cover for Arch?
Posted by Rodo
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
1626 posts
Posted on 9/17/25 at 10:25 am to
I'm trying to think of other college QBs that have dealt with the yips and I'm struggling. Any examples? Any ones that successfully overcame the affliction as I think that's the true issue if it is indeed the underlying causation.

Rodo
Posted by Whentheleveebreaks
Member since Aug 2020
2780 posts
Posted on 9/17/25 at 10:50 am to
Head issues typically are not fixed during the season.

Him getting the yips as you state Vs UTEP is not a good sign. It’s one thing if it happens at Ohio Stare. Yips is basically choking and that should not happen against a team such as them.
Posted by JustEd
Member since Feb 2022
341 posts
Posted on 9/17/25 at 11:11 am to
This may be your opportunity to pick up TBOW for pennies on the dollar
Posted by NobodyImportant
Montana
Member since Nov 2024
1821 posts
Posted on 9/17/25 at 11:20 am to
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I will say that one benefit from Arch was other high motor players buying in and committing to Texas. I just can't understand the level of play from Arch two years into the program. Seems to be a good kid and hard worker.
It's like Sark told him "you go do that QB shite and have fun out there."


Sark recruited that entire team off of Arch's commitment. He has no choice but to ride it out. Especially with 7M in NIL in the kid
Posted by MtVernon
Member since Jul 2024
10238 posts
Posted on 9/17/25 at 12:06 pm to
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We'd all like to have the second coming of Nick Saban as our coach


Nick Saban is not necessary to win at Texas. Any coach who can make (input = output) will do fine.
Posted by MtVernon
Member since Jul 2024
10238 posts
Posted on 9/17/25 at 12:14 pm to
I won't lie - to a LARGE extent I'm sure Texas wanted to "outshine" all the other Universities by bagging Arch Manning, and Sark/CDC were going to do whatever it took to make that happen.

And to the extent that CDC was fully behind this endeavor - Sark's job could be safe beyond all measures. We just don't know, but we have to think at least some (if not all) of this is the fallout of backfired public relations maneuvering.

Long term - the best thing for Sark is to get an NFL OC job. That's what the man wants to do.
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