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re: Sankey on FSU: “We’re not going to take our pie and slice it into more pieces."
Posted on 7/18/24 at 7:32 pm to Clark14
Posted on 7/18/24 at 7:32 pm to Clark14
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Y’all ain’t coming? Good.
I know you don't really feel that way. We never stopped being your biggest game.
But I'm referring to the pie getting smaller. That didn't happen. Everyone's piece stayed the same size.
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Posted on 7/18/24 at 8:12 pm to PerrillouxToTexas
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I know you don't really feel that way. We never stopped being your biggest game.
It was when I was growing up and by watching the 2021 game it still carries a lot of weight. Hopefully the younger folks will carry on the tradition, it was always fun that week.
Posted on 7/18/24 at 8:15 pm to CarolinaGamecock99
Translation - “We ain’t getting sued for tampering so we are going drag our acorns on you to humiliate your conference to make it look like the ACC power player can’t sniff the SEC…but for real when that contract is up we will take you.”
Posted on 7/18/24 at 10:00 pm to Pikes Peak Tiger
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2. What did FSU do to piss off the SEC and BiG.
It's called tortious interference. Neither the B1G or SEC is going to show interest until FSU/Clemson is free from their contractual obligations.
Posted on 7/18/24 at 10:26 pm to BurgTiger
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“We ain’t getting sued for tampering…”
I think this is the far more prescient issue at hand for both the B1G and the SEC. There will almost certainly come a time when those schools can be safely approached, but it isn’t right now. The ACC is a woman scorned at the moment, and it is best to stay out of her way from a legal perspective.
Agree with earlier comment that ND is the golden goose which will be #1 with a bullet on each of the conferences list, but Clemson and FSU are somewhere in the top 2-7 depending on your perspective.
Posted on 7/18/24 at 10:28 pm to Murph4HOF
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And that needs to be the same mentality that cuck bitch has before he entertains the idea of increasing the number of conference games.
why? 8 games with no divisions just means we are going to run into a year where we end up with some weird ties for the SEC title game
Posted on 7/19/24 at 8:41 am to CarolinaGamecock99
He did so for the whorns and sooners. Wouldn’t trust a word out of that snake’s mouth.
Posted on 7/19/24 at 8:48 am to tickfawtiger
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the SEC gains ZERO additional dollars after the inclusion of OK/TX.
This is not accurate.
The SEC did get enough money so the per-team payout did not change by adding OU/UT.
That's not a contractual guarantee for adding teams. ESPN wanted the expansion to happen so they agreed to that. ESPN doesn't see the value in adding FSU and Clemson for them (since they already own FSU and Clemson's games through their ACC deal). They likely have no interest on doing the same thing for either of those teams.
The SEC THOUGHT they could at the same time offer more conference games and renegotiate the overall deal with ESPN. ESPN passed on that.
The SEC likely won't expand again until they get close to their next TV deal in the early 2030's. They might add teams just before that to set themselves up to improve their next TV deal. They won't make a move until then (if at all... they could just go with 16 teams going forward).
Posted on 7/19/24 at 8:52 am to tickfawtiger
quote:Not to mention all of us are stuck with a declining ESPN's watered down coverage and low res tv feed for quite a long time.
tickfawtiger
Sankey the idiot brought this on HIMSELF...i.e the B10's TV contract calls for escalator clauses as additional high porfile teams are added to the conference and ALSO for MORE conference games ! Sankey and hid 'brain-trust' did NOT negotiate for this PROBABILITY when signing with ESPN/disney ! Thus, the SEC gains ZERO additional dollars after the inclusion of OK/TX....AND also gets ZERO additional funds for a 9th and 10th conference game ! HOW the university presidents/AD's allowed this, is beyond comprehension ! Tens of millions of $ were left 'on the table'...and yet, the SEC office is never called out for this monumental BLUNDER !
Posted on 7/19/24 at 8:55 am to Pikes Peak Tiger
quote:Not unless ESPN either offers up more money or breaks their contract and allows Fox/NBC/whoever to bid on select games. Otherwise it's every SEC member who gets screwed out of money.
1. I don’t believe that. The SEC will add more teams before all is said and done
2. What did FSU do to piss off the SEC and BiG. Has to be more than the complaining about getting left out of the playoffs last season. But neither of the 2 major conferences seem to want anything to do with them.
Posted on 7/19/24 at 8:59 am to MurphyGator
quote:Agree his negotiation with ABC/ESPN sucked when it comes to getting more money from them, but he would have surely been fired allowing Texas/OU to slide into the B1G and allowing them to have more leverage in future tv rights negotiations. He was in a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation.
Sankey’s abysmal negotiations surrounding adding OU and Utx should get him fired. Who exactly does he have to answer to regarding his job performance? Who has the power to fire him?
Posted on 7/19/24 at 9:48 am to 49 to nada
quote:Sankey got bluffed. Texas was under contract with ESPN for the LHN. They weren't going anywhere without ESPN's blessing until the LHN deal expired in 2031, and the Big Ten wasn't looking to radically expand at that time--they later did so only as an overreaction to Sankey wetting his pants at the prospect of Texas and OU flirting with the Big Ten. He played a poor hand of poker, and helped create a mess. If he'd held his nerve, things might have played out in a more sensible manner in 2030 or so, after we had a few years of the expanded playoff with the existing conference structure.quote:Agree his negotiation with ABC/ESPN sucked when it comes to getting more money from them, but he would have surely been fired allowing Texas/OU to slide into the B1G and allowing them to have more leverage in future tv rights negotiations. He was in a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation.
Sankey’s abysmal negotiations surrounding adding OU and Utx should get him fired. Who exactly does he have to answer to regarding his job performance? Who has the power to fire him?
Posted on 7/19/24 at 10:16 am to CarolinaGamecock99
I have never understood why Sankey did not have the other networks bid on the TV package. It was all signed and sealed for ABC/ESPN from the get go.
Posted on 7/19/24 at 10:25 am to bunkerhill
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I have never understood why Sankey did not have the other networks bid on the TV package. It was all signed and sealed for ABC/ESPN from the get go.
I think SEC leadership was shell-shocked after CBS walked. ESPN swooped in and (only) matched CBS's offer but made it clear they'd get Texas/Oklahoma into the league. SEC had to say yes.
Posted on 7/19/24 at 11:18 am to tickfawtiger
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Tens of millions of $ were left 'on the table'...and yet, the SEC office is never called out for this monumental BLUNDER !
Who is gonna call it out? The schools sure as shite aren't. They all had highly representatives go over the contracts with a fine toothed comb before giving Sankey the go ahead with it. He can't unilaterally sign it without their go ahead. You can blame Sankey all you want but every member institution signed off on that shitty contract so that is why they are silent on the matter.
Posted on 7/19/24 at 11:39 am to Clark14
What if you can take the top third of the ACC and walk away with 80% of the money?
Posted on 7/19/24 at 11:41 am to Murph4HOF
By all means...stay @ 8 games & gripe about the time between rematches!
Posted on 7/19/24 at 11:47 am to Pikes Peak Tiger
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2. What did FSU do to piss off the SEC and BiG. Has to be more than the complaining about getting left out of the playoffs last season. But neither of the 2 major conferences seem to want anything to do with them.
Easy...THEY'RE IN COURT!
Until they're officially OUT of the ACC, NOBODY can have direct conversations to join another conference.
Posted on 7/19/24 at 11:53 am to BurgTiger
Maybe, but I think the SEC has other schools they want 1st.
But, as stated, until teams are OFFICIALLY OUT of Conf. A, can they legally converse with Conf. B about joining.
But, as stated, until teams are OFFICIALLY OUT of Conf. A, can they legally converse with Conf. B about joining.
Posted on 7/19/24 at 11:55 am to JDNac
Don't forget NC & VA.
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