re: Saban's success is not related to X's & O's, Jamal's and Javaughantay's, or 5 star

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It may be more important, but #2 absolutely matters.

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Of course it does.

Look, I think Saban is an A+ in all facets of coaching football and developing a program, but recruiting is his best trait. That's what separates Alabama from 95% of college football. His other traits separate them from the other 5%.

But make no mistake: great players and mediocre coaching beats mediocre players and great coaching most of the time. Plenty of national titles and Super Bowls have been won with average (even bad) coaches but not too many with mediocre players.

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Why are all these terrible Bama accounts allowed on here?

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Try to stay on topic, troll.

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Saban with the Kansas roster gets his arse kicked no matter what the hell he preaches to the players.

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Well, first of all, Saban would never have the Kansas roster in a million years. Second, he took a team that was largely made up of Mike Shula recruits and very nearly won an SECCG and likely then would have won the BCSCG.

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But make no mistake: great players and mediocre coaching beats mediocre players and great coaching most of the time.

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Absolutely

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Absolutely not. A coach, not the players, is the integral cog in the wheel that keeps the wheel from collapsing. A team with nothing but five star players out of high school coached by the local guy that hangs around in the gas station hitting on the fat, disgusting attendant are not going to fare well.

They have to have structure. They have to be taught the new rules of the game in college. They have to taught how to mostly forget everything they knew in high school and relearn how to play football again. They almost have to be taught how to learn how to live in a different way.

If these things aren't done by a good college coach, you just have a bunch of talented athletes that don't know what the hell to do, how to act, how to play, or even some of the rudimentary rules of the new game they are playing.

They would be lost and would look inept and ridiculous on the field against a well coached team of 5'5" inch, club footed, 6.4 forty snails coached by a great coach.

They would have no discipline, could hardly make a single play without being penalized, would let anger or disgust ruin their performances, etc...

They would be a disaster kind of like Georgia has been for decades and decades.

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To sum it up, there will never be another Saban because coaches just don't care enough. Saban is a relic from another era where being responsible and reliable and trustworthy and being intent on having things done right or else is very important to him. He has a unique ability to transfer that mindset to players and have them accept it.

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You obviously don't know much about the great one who preceded him and that means there will likely never be another Bear Bryant. He kept primarily the same coaches throughout his 24 years at the Capstone. He was a players coach and showed compassion toward his players and didnt always have the greatest recruits or 3 deep. He turned ordinary in to extraordinary.

Saban has had a new OC almost every other year. He's a yankeee who has has faltered many times for lack of discipline, somewhat better in the last few years. Also, typically doesnt care much about players once they leave and will lie like a dog to them, see Jalen Hurts. No telling how many cars etc have been bought to steer them to Bama, yes i know the Bear did as wll and every school does it, but he has Emmert in his back pocket so the heat never rises to the top.

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He is not and never has been an extremely gifted X's and O's tactician

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I do agree with this statement and not to mention Saban has blown really big games with boneheaded decisions.

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Kirby doesn't have the same amount of NC's, since he left Alabama, as Saban because he is kind of goofy and does a lot better when told what to do and how to do it by a stronger, more take control type of man like Saban.

Saban is the coach of the coaches too, not just the players. The reason that many of them do not have the level of success out there on their own, after they leave Alabama, is because their father is not looking out for them any longer and guiding them.

For men that are not very mature or with men that enjoy being told what to do and how to do it in order to strive, losing your daddy all of the sudden leaves you unprepared to face challenges on your own. This is pretty much what has happened to Smart.

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All of this flies in the face or your OP. Make up your mind.

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No, the players are just pieces of the puzzle that are put together by the coach.

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How good is a coach really who has the best team every year but only wins titles half the time?

In the last 10 seasons, Saban has had the best team every time, yet lost 2 or more games 4 different times. His only undefeated season during that span was last season's Covid year.

ETA: The Miami Dolphins don't think he's a very good coach.
In five seasons at Michigan State, not having the best team, he had three 6-win seasons and a 7-win season.

Ahahahahahahaha

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studded rosters. His 7 NC's haven't been reliant on having the very best assistant's that can be had. The reason Saban's extreme level of achievement can't simply be replicated at will by other coaches is because it's fricking hard.

It's hard to have discipline and teach that to little baby children that play football. It's hard to teach players to sacrifice their own glory for the benefit of the team.

It's not easy to create personalities that, when facing failure, try harder and harder until they succeed instead of just opting out of their lives and opting out on the team.

And he has a short amount of time to do this in. Changing the whole modern mindset of me, me, me that most all teens have in modern times to a what can I do to help all my teammates attitude, in just a few short years, is almost miraculous.

He is not and never has been an extremely gifted X's and O's tactition. He has always been above average at defensive strategies but that alone does not equate to an overall brilliant coaching ability.

Many teams have great players and tons of them. Take the losers in Georgia, for example. Very talented players for decades and decades and decades but they all already have or get infected by that 'ole gangster attitude when they sign up to play for the Bulldogs.

Instead of football, things like dancing on the sidelines while singing about masturbating on women's backs is more important to them than winning games. The whole team rushing the field and trying to start fights are more important than winning games because they feel it makes them look like men.

To sum it up, there will never be another Saban because coaches just don't care enough. Saban is a relic from another era where being responsible and reliable and trustworthy and being intent on having things done right or else is very important to him. He has a unique ability to transfer that mindset to players and have them accept it.

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Thnk you for giving away Saban's secret to winning!