re: Saban surprised that his excuse was taken as an excuse.

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whereas miles truely cares about his players

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I'm certain that's why Miles got that enormous buyout clause, bc he truly cares about his players.

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But we all know saban only cares about his own agenda, whereas miles truely cares about his players

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Saban's agenda is winning as evidenced by four in a row over Miles

1. Saban was right. 2. Les Miles agreed w/ him. 3. this is the biggest bullshite story from media days perpetrated by whiny bitches.

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Look hes the best coach in the history of college football, but that doesnt make him less of a greedy a-hole

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So in your world other coaches coach out of the goodness of their heart?

The difference being that Miles didn't use the draft as a reason for his team losing. Nobody is directly arguing against the point made by Saban, just the way he used it.

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The difference being that Miles didn't use the draft as a reason for his team losing. Nobody is directly arguing against the point made by Saban, just the way he used it.

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Ohio State just beat Bama at this thread.

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The difference being that Miles didn't use the draft as a reason for his team losing. Nobody is directly arguing against the point made by Saban, just the way he used it.

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When did Saban say the reason that we lost is because of the draft advisory board. Can I get a link?

He just was asked his opinion about the draft grades. He said they were a distraction.

Saban isn't allowed to give his opinion unless he goes 15-0.

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I live in B1G country. I don't hate him like many here do, so playing the hate him cause he's Saban card isn't relevant here.

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Again, Saban gave his opinion when asked what he thought about the draft grades. He said....gasp... they were a distraction. He should know that any opinion he has will be construed into an excuse if he loses a game.

So if the advisory grades were a distraction, should he not have mentioned it? Should he just have answered "I have no opinion on the draft advisory board. I don't want to offend any opposing fans with my opinion."

Let's get the whole quote for some perspective:

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"I just felt like in our experience last year, our chemistry from the SEC championship game to the playoff game was affected by something. We had six guys in this situation this past year and 11 the year before. We're trying to get ready for a game and all of a sudden a guy finds out he's a first-round pick or a guy who thought he was a first-round pick finds out he isn't and we're trying to play a playoff game.

"I think it would be better not to submit that information to a player until he was finished competing in college. We've moved the draft (later in the year). We've not moved the date that a player has to declare (later)."

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So, again, if something did happen, and he thinks that was resulting from the draft grades, is he not allowed to say it? Does he need to have every answer approved by Urban Meyer first lest it not come across as an excuse.

He took responsibility for the game in the conference afterward. Is that enough? Does he have to qualify every comment he makes until the next NCG with "now, I know the loss is my fault"?

I think we, as fans, forget that these guys are not robots. They hear information, and they choose whether or not it will affect them. Saban can encourage them to not let it affect them, but at the end of the day he can't change their thoughts and actions.

He took responsibility for the loss AFTER he was called on it by everyone for making an excuse. Nothing new. He doesn't have to change his ways and I doubt he will. When you win you can say whatever and whenever you want.