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re: Saban Made False Statements, and that ruined his point on NIL
Posted on 5/20/22 at 9:21 am to AGGIES
Posted on 5/20/22 at 9:21 am to AGGIES
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I think the NCAA punted to the states because they can’t legally control it based on the Supreme Court ruling.
And it sounds to me like the real issue is that Nick is mad that Bama boosters aren’t up to speed on NIL. And he’s trying to whip them into shape to compete.
It was interesting that Jimbo kept repeating that A&M wasn't in violation of State of Texas laws. So what A&M is doing is legal although against NCAA rules. NCAA can't do anything about it because they don't have standing. Jimbo also went on to say if you don't like it pass a law and do something.
Congress is going to have to weigh in basically
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Posted on 5/20/22 at 9:30 am to 14&Counting
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Congress is going to have to weigh in basically
Which is maddening because Congress has other shite to deal with, and if they do weigh in, we’re gonna get all kinds of other shite forced on the game we don’t want like forced pronouns on jerseys and mandated quotas for female players and coaches.
Posted on 5/20/22 at 9:35 am to texag7
quote:Can you provide the logical and factual reasons why A&M landed a historic recruiting class that does not involve money being promised to recruits before they signed?
Our arguments are based on facts and logic
Their arguments are based on emotion
Posted on 5/20/22 at 9:37 am to ibldprplgld
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Which is maddening because Congress has other shite to deal with, and if they do weigh in, we’re gonna get all kinds of other shite forced on the game we don’t want like forced pronouns on jerseys and mandated quotas for female players and coaches.
In this environment maybe but that is what they eventually had to do with the NFL, MLB, and NBA and the anti-trust exemptions they currently operate under. There is going to have to be some form of governance or empowering the NCAA to enforce it. Something will have to give.
Posted on 5/20/22 at 9:39 am to AGGIES
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These kids chose a school with better and more respected academics,
Do you really think these players give a shite about education? No. They were paid millions to go to college station
Posted on 5/20/22 at 9:42 am to AGGIES
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This is another false statement without any basis in fact.
It’s a FACT that you don’t know what the facts are. Some t-shirt fan of aggy isn’t entitled to the details behind sponsorships, cash transfers, etc. The rules allowed it, and there’s a great chance that your big-money boosters shelled out the dough. Get over yourself.
Posted on 5/20/22 at 9:43 am to AGGIES
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Saban Made False Statements
Nope
Posted on 5/20/22 at 9:44 am to 14&Counting
There are No NCAA rules that are being broken that I’m aware of. Unless you think that with NIL technically all these school are breaking NCAA rules right now.
Because if these other school’s collectives can openly advertise paying kids to come to their school for $XXX, then there really are no rules.
But the Transfer Portal is what is being exploited much worse than HS recruiting. There is a lot of tampering going on and there seems to be no control over any of it. Surely being in contact with a player prior to them being in the portal is against the NCAA rules. Saban, Riley, Sarkisian and Kiffin can shed some more light on that topic.
Because if these other school’s collectives can openly advertise paying kids to come to their school for $XXX, then there really are no rules.
But the Transfer Portal is what is being exploited much worse than HS recruiting. There is a lot of tampering going on and there seems to be no control over any of it. Surely being in contact with a player prior to them being in the portal is against the NCAA rules. Saban, Riley, Sarkisian and Kiffin can shed some more light on that topic.
Posted on 5/20/22 at 9:55 am to AGGIES
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These kids chose a school with better and more respected academics, better and more respected coaches and a larger and more successful alumni base. These factors amount to better chances to succeed in life after college ball.
Yeah this is exactly why they chose Gay&M
Posted on 5/20/22 at 10:00 am to AGGIES
So no money changed hands to get the Aggies the top class? ??
Posted on 5/20/22 at 10:00 am to AGGIES
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A&M didn’t buy their entire class.
Yes because of school that hasn’t won a championship since 1939 and is located in the middle of a sweltering pasture is so star spangled awesome that it can pull seven 5* recruits having never ever done that before. Posted on 5/20/22 at 10:21 am to TailbackU
Recruiting is forward looking. The power of Jimbo is something to behold!
With this type of narrow mindedness and inability to see the greater picture, you are probably surprised by a lot of things.
With this type of narrow mindedness and inability to see the greater picture, you are probably surprised by a lot of things.
Posted on 5/20/22 at 10:35 am to AGGIES
NCAA and Texas state laws very clearly say schools and boosters are not allowed to offer NIL deals to prospective student-athletes (recruits). Read the rules.
A&M obviously did that. You think it's a coincidence that Jimbo has had 1-2 five stars per year, then NIL gets introduced in year 4, and all of a sudden best class of all time? After an 8-4 season and losing his DC days before NSD1? Pulling kids from GA, LA, FL and more? C'mon man, open your eyes. Saban, Kiffin, etc aren't just randomly singling out A&M. They know what the recruits are getting from A&M bc they're trying to recruit those kids too.
Sure, A&M isn't the only school cheating. They're just doing it way more than anyone else.
Oh, and before someone chimes in with the "sorry you're poor" comment - A&M isn't even in the top 20 US universities in terms of high net worth alums. Meanwhile USC, Miami, UCLA, ND, Texas, Michigan and several other P5s are.
A&M obviously did that. You think it's a coincidence that Jimbo has had 1-2 five stars per year, then NIL gets introduced in year 4, and all of a sudden best class of all time? After an 8-4 season and losing his DC days before NSD1? Pulling kids from GA, LA, FL and more? C'mon man, open your eyes. Saban, Kiffin, etc aren't just randomly singling out A&M. They know what the recruits are getting from A&M bc they're trying to recruit those kids too.
Sure, A&M isn't the only school cheating. They're just doing it way more than anyone else.
Oh, and before someone chimes in with the "sorry you're poor" comment - A&M isn't even in the top 20 US universities in terms of high net worth alums. Meanwhile USC, Miami, UCLA, ND, Texas, Michigan and several other P5s are.
Posted on 5/20/22 at 10:44 am to tigahdor
I get that is what you believe. I don’t have to change anybody’s mind. But Saban has since apologized and clarified that he didn’t say A&M did anything illegal. So it’s not obvious, no.
Posted on 5/20/22 at 10:57 am to AGGIES
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A&M didn’t buy their entire class. This can be easily verified to be a false statement via the NIL office. They don’t all have NIL deals while still in HS. But he was asserting that A&M was paying players in order to sign LOI. Which he has now backtracked off of in his apology and says he didn’t mean to say they did anything illegal.
The issue is if any of these players received a deal prior to coming to a&m as a result of NIL. If so it was not the NIL was designed for to entice players. If just one did Saban was right.
Evan Stewart admits it yesterday, 5 Star WR recruit.
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I get money bc of my character and image
Not because he has ever played a down at a&m yet but he got paid to come there. At least he admits it.
Saban also never said a&m did anything illegal but yet Jimbo got very defensive about it.
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It’s possible to have a conversation about NIL without making BS accusations against specific schools.
Can this happen yes but not on this site when so many of your fans came on here prior to both signing days bragging about buying the class. That your boosters were going to out spend every other program. And that was not just on this site, but now all are trying to deflect from that because everyone in the country outside of a&m believes the entire class was bought. Again maybe not true but it started with a&m fans creating the myth on boards like this.
Posted on 5/20/22 at 10:58 am to TideWarrior
You should know that Stewart makes a lot of money off of social media. Tik-Tok videos
Posted on 5/20/22 at 10:59 am to AGGIES
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But Saban has since apologized and clarified that he didn’t say A&M did anything illegal.
Please show me where in Saban's original comments he said a&m did something illegal. Maybe I missed it but I have not seen that and every media person said he did not. It seems you may be making a false statement of your own.
Posted on 5/20/22 at 11:01 am to ColoradoAg
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You should know that Stewart makes a lot of money off of social media. Tik-Tok videos
Irrelevant because his statement yesterday was directly focused at Saban in regards to NIL and players being offered NIL to attend a school.
Posted on 5/20/22 at 11:04 am to InfoChecker
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Nobody, and I repeat NOBODY believes that any of those players chose A&M without some form of monetary payment.
What they're mad about is that Saban is a hypocrite. Not because what he said was untrue because it was very true.
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Posted on 5/20/22 at 11:09 am to TideWarrior
As I said previously… The false statement was that A&M bought their entire class.
Sure, his comments could have been defined better.
Most people took that to mean that he accused A&M of paying all of the guys to sign with A&M. So he apologized, and his apology and clarification came as the result of people thinking that he meant A&M was breaking the law/breaking the rules. There is a reason that Saban tried to call Jimbo…
Sure, his comments could have been defined better.
Most people took that to mean that he accused A&M of paying all of the guys to sign with A&M. So he apologized, and his apology and clarification came as the result of people thinking that he meant A&M was breaking the law/breaking the rules. There is a reason that Saban tried to call Jimbo…
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