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re: Saban Made False Statements, and that ruined his point on NIL
Posted on 5/20/22 at 7:16 am to Pandy Fackler
Posted on 5/20/22 at 7:16 am to Pandy Fackler
You either think Saban made false statements or you don’t.
Posted on 5/20/22 at 7:18 am to SidewalkTiger
Well that’s certainly part of the recruiting pitch. And I think the recruits are smart enough to appreciate that, and the family is also smart enough to appreciate it.
Posted on 5/20/22 at 7:20 am to LSUstephen17
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You bought the entire class and everybody knows it sit down and shut up.
And you have a problem with this why?
Posted on 5/20/22 at 7:21 am to AGGIES
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A&M didn’t buy their entire class. This can be easily verified to be a false statement via the NIL office. They don’t all have NIL deals while still in HS. But he was asserting that A&M was paying players in order to sign LOI. Which he has now backtracked off of in his apology and says he didn’t mean to say they did anything illegal.
Incorrect. He clarified he never said what they did was illegal, apologized for singling them out, but stands by the collectives being a means for teams to pay players uncapped salaries to come to their schools whilst skirting NCAA bylaws without violation. He then reiterated that this model wasn’t sustainable which other coaches (including Jimbo) have already agreed with
Jimbo freaked because he doesn’t want ppl to believe his recruiting class happened because of NIL (absurd to believe it didn’t)
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Jackson State didn’t pay Hunter $1 million.
This is another false statement by Saban.
He has no knowledge or evidence, and claims he read about it. He has now been repudiated by Coach Prime and by Hunter.
Would love to see the final details of the Hunter NIL deal because last Dec it was pretty publicized it was 1-1.5mil. Denying without clarifying the amount, and implying Hunter turned down what was likely 6-7 figures in NIL at other places to come to an FCS school for nothing is laughable
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It’s possible to have a conversation about NIL without making BS accusations against specific schools.
It’s possible to discuss NIL without examples of why it’s flawed is possible but the examples make for a stronger argument obviously. Sorry the examples included your favorite team
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There are plenty of other collectives at other schools that are much more brazen in their advertisement of what they are paying.
Debatable. That being said, had Saban simply said “schools are using collectives” instead of naming A&M specifically, Jimbo still probably has that same manic, hyper-defensive rant about Saban although he maybe goes on for 5min instead of 10
This post was edited on 5/20/22 at 7:23 am
Posted on 5/20/22 at 7:25 am to Buddy the Tiger
I’m really not defensive about NIL. I acknowledge that NIL opportunities are part of the recruiting pitch for every school. It’s the lay of the land. But the comments made were not accurate and are irresponsible.
This recruiting effort by Jimbo and staff is something to be proud of, and not disparaged by other coaches who are jealous.
My point was the false statements made by Saban completely detract from the broader point of regulating NIL.
This recruiting effort by Jimbo and staff is something to be proud of, and not disparaged by other coaches who are jealous.
My point was the false statements made by Saban completely detract from the broader point of regulating NIL.
Posted on 5/20/22 at 7:28 am to HighTide_ATL
Well it certainly became national news and ESPN headlines that Saban called out A&M. So Jimbo felt he had to respond.
So I disagree with your notion that Jimbo calls a press conference even if A&M wasn’t called out by name.
So I disagree with your notion that Jimbo calls a press conference even if A&M wasn’t called out by name.
Posted on 5/20/22 at 7:30 am to AGGIES
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Well that’s certainly part of the recruiting pitch. And I think the recruits are smart enough to appreciate that, and the family is also smart enough to appreciate it.
I'm not saying there aren't one or two here or there who don't appreciate but you obviously haven't had much contact with highly recruited high school athletes or their families in general.
This post was edited on 5/20/22 at 7:31 am
Posted on 5/20/22 at 7:35 am to SidewalkTiger
Ok. I admit I haven’t had much contact with highly recruited athletes.
But with that being said - nobody can claim that Jimbo wasn’t an outstanding recruiter for several years prior to NIL.
So an outstanding recruiter got even better.
But with that being said - nobody can claim that Jimbo wasn’t an outstanding recruiter for several years prior to NIL.
So an outstanding recruiter got even better.
Posted on 5/20/22 at 7:38 am to AGGIES
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But with that being said - nobody can claim that Jimbo wasn’t an outstanding recruiter for several years prior to NIL.
I agree, he's been a great recruiter the entire time he's been a head coach.
Posted on 5/20/22 at 7:39 am to SidewalkTiger
Life after college ball today means NFL....and that's LSU bud. Wise up.
Posted on 5/20/22 at 7:44 am to AGGIES
quote:And none of this has helped you win a national championship since 1939.
These kids chose a school with better and more respected academics, better and more respected coaches and a larger and more successful alumni base.
Congrats.
Posted on 5/20/22 at 7:44 am to SidewalkTiger
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I agree, he's been a great recruiter the entire time he's been a head coach.
And I think this is what gets Jimbo so angry about these irresponsible comments.
Because it really disparages the hard work he puts in to it and success that he has had recruiting without NIL. It’s a personal attack.
Posted on 5/20/22 at 7:47 am to AGGIES
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And I think this is what gets Jimbo so angry about these irresponsible comments.
Because it really disparages the hard work he puts in to it and success that he has had recruiting without NIL. It’s a personal attack.
I think there are plenty of reasons why A&M could've landed this class outside of NIL, particularly because it was a banner year for Houston area recruiting.
However, I tend to think that everyone is cheating and A&M just figured out how to handle NIL quicker.
If they land another top class next year however, I think that's when the questions become very relevant.
Posted on 5/20/22 at 7:47 am to AGGIES
Saban is a hypocrite, but he nailed Aggie and everyone knows it. Including Jimbo.
Posted on 5/20/22 at 7:50 am to Wolfhound45
No offense intended. I was not belittling LSU’s success.
Yes, the opportunity to be part of the group to accomplish what hasn’t been done in a long time/bring A&M over the top - that is another recruiting angle.
Yes, the opportunity to be part of the group to accomplish what hasn’t been done in a long time/bring A&M over the top - that is another recruiting angle.
Posted on 5/20/22 at 8:13 am to AGGIES
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You are entitled to an opinion - even if you don’t have facts
The major statistical anomaly of the increase in 5 star signees is very much a fact. People form their own deductions beginning there. Obviously the majority of people think that something is very off. But whatever, keep that head buried in the sand my friend.
Posted on 5/20/22 at 9:00 am to AGGIES
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The NIL lawyers who worked with A&M have assured Jimbo and Bjork that everything was set up correctly and is all legal per Texas State Law. The NIL side is separate from the A&M AD and the recruiting team. So that’s all I have to go by.
It sounds like the issue is that even if something is allowed by state statute, it could still be a violation of NCAA regulations. That’s the tricky part. I could have that wrong bc I’ve not been following that closely.
Jimbo was spot on with one thing: irrespective of incongruent state statutes, there needs to be one overarching rule, or set of rules, that applies to all programs.
Posted on 5/20/22 at 9:14 am to ibldprplgld
I think the NCAA punted to the states because they can’t legally control it based on the Supreme Court ruling.
And it sounds to me like the real issue is that Nick is mad that Bama boosters aren’t up to speed on NIL. And he’s trying to whip them into shape to compete.
And it sounds to me like the real issue is that Nick is mad that Bama boosters aren’t up to speed on NIL. And he’s trying to whip them into shape to compete.
Posted on 5/20/22 at 9:17 am to Beessnax
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You had a 600% increase in 5 star signees in one year.
Its the secret sauce…
Posted on 5/20/22 at 9:18 am to AGGIES
They did buy the whole class. We will how it goes with another 8-5 year or 8-4, depending on which game is canceled.
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