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re: Saban is a piece of trash.

Posted on 11/22/19 at 6:35 am to
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 11/22/19 at 6:35 am to
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I said the same thing about Muschamp leaving Hilinski in the game against UGA when Hilinski was obviously limping..
The two situations are in no way related.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65056 posts
Posted on 11/22/19 at 6:38 am to
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I said the same thing about Muschamp leaving Hilinski in the game against UGA when Hilinski was obviously limping


The difference is, Tua showed no outward signs of being hurt prior to his season-ending injury on Saturday. He looked as close to 100% as he had been all season long throughout the game.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Tittleman's Crest
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 11/22/19 at 6:38 am to
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The guy is looking for anything he can to rationalize letting Tua play after multiple injuries. The fact that Tua has already had two surgeries and still playing is ridiculous. Also, Saban allowing him to rush back from the last ankle surgery is also absurd. He wasn’t even away from the game two weeks after his surgery. Who does the decisions benefit the most by letting him play? Tua was already going to be a first round pick in the NFL, so what person benefits the most. Saban doesn’t care for his players and instead of being a rational adult, he allowed a kid rush back from injuries only to cost him millions of dollars. Then he puts all the blame on the kid, sucks to be a sucky person.

So much stupidity, don't even really know where to start.
Posted by AU4real35
Member since Jan 2014
16065 posts
Posted on 11/22/19 at 6:38 am to
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Just about every player who has played QB for Saban at Alabama has been able to do this and do it well. Tua continually refused to accept failure on a busted play instead of cutting his losses and waiting until the next play to make up for the mistakes made on the previous play. Sometimes that led to a scramble for a first down, sometimes it led to a turnover, and sometimes it led to an injury. It sucks but there it is and Saban isn't trash for pointing it out.


This is one of the most absurd points I’ve read on here. All of the blame is on Tua, really, Saban has no blame at all? It’s like our bodies don’t go into protection mode when we have an injury somewhere else on our body. The fact is Tua was injured and shouldn’t have been playing and we wouldn’t even be discussing this if the head coach makes the wise and responsible decision. Yet after all this is done, he blames it all on Tua... how do y’all not see this?
Posted by TigerFanNKaty
texas
Member since Sep 2008
10232 posts
Posted on 11/22/19 at 6:40 am to
He's probably right, but he shouldn't have said it at all. Now the SJW crowd such as yourself will come out in mass to defend Tua.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 11/22/19 at 6:41 am to
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The fact is Tua was injured and shouldn’t have been playing
You realize the hip injury had nothing to do with his prior injury, right? (and he was showing no signs that he was already injured)
Posted by AU4real35
Member since Jan 2014
16065 posts
Posted on 11/22/19 at 6:41 am to
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The difference is, Tua showed no outward signs of being hurt prior to his season-ending injury on Saturday. He looked as close to 100% as he had been all season long throughout the game.


100% false, after the LSU game he could barely walk... even on the last play he couldn’t outrun guys he’s usually blowing past.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65056 posts
Posted on 11/22/19 at 6:41 am to
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All of the blame is on Tua, really, Saban has no blame at all?


I'm not blaming anyone. I'm simply saying that what Saban says is accurate. Tua held the ball too long. But the injury itself is not his fault, nor is it Saban's. Football is a contact sport. If you want to blame someone for what happened on Saturday, blame the game itself.
Posted by AU4real35
Member since Jan 2014
16065 posts
Posted on 11/22/19 at 6:44 am to
Why does saban even make the statement, to make himself feel better?
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65056 posts
Posted on 11/22/19 at 6:44 am to
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100% false, after the LSU game he could barely walk


A limp does not equate to being able to barely walk. How many football players throughout the 150 years of football have limped off the field after a game, only to play the very next week?

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even on the last play he couldn’t outrun guys he’s usually blowing past.


He got chased down by defensive linemen in the Tennessee game.
Posted by terriblegreen
Souf Badden Rewage
Member since Aug 2011
9618 posts
Posted on 11/22/19 at 6:46 am to
Why do y’all get so worked up over Saban?
Posted by millerf43
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2019
457 posts
Posted on 11/22/19 at 6:47 am to
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Saban: "Both times that (Tua) was injured this year -- and I don't mean this to be a negative -- but sometimes you just have to know when to give up on a play. ... He's such a competitor, he wanted to make it work and put himself in a bad position. We hate it for him."



You can't blame Saban for playing Tua if Tua was cleared to play and it was Tua's decision to play. You can blame Saban for putting an injured Tua in a 2 minute offense at the end of the half up 28 "for practice." Yeah, I get that it's good to practice a two minute offence in an actual game.

I won't say Saban is a terrible human being who gambled with Tua's career by taking an unnecessary risk with his star QB. I will say that Saban put "the process" ahead of Tua's future in the NFL but that's Saban.

I have my personal opinion of Saban's poor decision but I'll leave it at "Saban made a poor coaching decision." I truly hate to see any player hurt, especially an extremely talented QB about to capitalize on his talent.

I hope Tua makes a full recovery and this doesn't hurt his draft stock. The guy played like a champion in the second half of the LSU game. I have nothing but respect for Tua. Moreover, I hope he learns to weigh his health and financial final future against his coach's "process."
Posted by AU4real35
Member since Jan 2014
16065 posts
Posted on 11/22/19 at 6:47 am to
The kid has had 3 surgeries in less than a year. Two of them could have been avoided and would have healed by themselves. There’s some major irresponsibility there to be placing all of this on a kid because “he’s too competitive”.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65056 posts
Posted on 11/22/19 at 6:49 am to
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The kid has had 3 surgeries in less than a year.


And...?

Posted by AU4real35
Member since Jan 2014
16065 posts
Posted on 11/22/19 at 6:50 am to
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And...?


Two of them, maybe all three could have been avoided.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 11/22/19 at 6:50 am to
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Why does saban even make the statement,
Most likely to make a statement to the rest of the team.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 11/22/19 at 6:53 am to
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Two of them could have been avoided and would have healed by themselves.
Two of them could have been avoided if he threw the ball away a second earlier.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39223 posts
Posted on 11/22/19 at 6:54 am to
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Does Tua’s ankles heal without surgery? Why put him through two surgeries within a year, why not sit the kid and let his body heal?

Ask Orgeron, not me. He’s the one who played Grant Delpit on a hurt ankle.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65056 posts
Posted on 11/22/19 at 6:54 am to
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Two of them, maybe all three could have been avoided.


You're right. If Tua had thrown the ball away against Tennessee instead of trying to be a hero, we probably aren't having this conversation.

Posted by AU4real35
Member since Jan 2014
16065 posts
Posted on 11/22/19 at 6:58 am to
If his ankles were allowed to heal without surgery, we wouldn’t be having these conversations.
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