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re: Ryan Day is a Commie. Wants players to pool their NIL money so everyone can get paid.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 12:29 pm to Tridentds
Posted on 7/29/21 at 12:29 pm to Tridentds
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This is where the NCAA dropped the ball. Should have been a common pool and every player receives the same. Colleges and Universities in larger cities have a lot more commercial opportunities for athletes to get paid.
Do college coaches in larger cities pool their endorsement revenue much less their salary? All players get the same "salary" (scholarship) already, it would be the epitome of socialism to force them to pool an individually earned endorsement from a private company.
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This is getting to be like MLB without a salary cap. Yankees would be completely unstoppable without the cap
There is no salary cap in baseball. There is a luxury tax. The Yankees can outbid anyone at anytime for any player and no team can stop them.
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Going to end up with a handful of high salary college teams. Small market teams have almost no chance going forward as it is starting to play out.
There is no salary. These are personal endorsement deals. You get endorsements by being a great player on a great team. The top programs will continue to pay a top salary to the best coaches, and they will continue to get the top players. Teams are not going to go from average to great due to NIL, or vice versa.
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Posted on 7/29/21 at 12:30 pm to wareaglepete
No the school would coordinate a deal in some fashion for the entire team and be able to distribute it among the players.
Any individual deals would be separate
Any individual deals would be separate
This post was edited on 7/29/21 at 12:31 pm
Posted on 7/29/21 at 12:34 pm to TX Tiger
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Except that with NIL not everyone will get paid, unlike a working environment where everyone gets a paycheck.
It's actually not a bad idea from the standpoint of team chemistry, especially when you consider the entire league shares revenue.
All players already get paid the same for being on the team in the form of a scholarship. And while the entire league shares league wide negotiated revenue, they do not share revenue from individual school endorsement or sponsorship deals.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 12:35 pm to wareaglepete
This post was edited on 8/10/21 at 9:58 am
Posted on 7/29/21 at 12:37 pm to Sneaky__Sally
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No the school would coordinate a deal in some fashion for the entire team and be able to distribute it among the players.
This would literally be schools paying the players.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 12:38 pm to AustinAggie
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Almost every American sports league is somewhat communist in nature if you think about it.
There’s no free market competition angle for someone who wants to just start a team, it’s literally impossible.
This. And also it cracks me up when they complain about players holding out for more money or demanding a trade. That's pure capitalism.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 12:40 pm to TX Tiger
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But aren't those sales shared within the university? I'm asking, I don't know the answer.
No. A good example would the all the signage in the outfield at Alex Box, or the Nike deal for shoes and apparel. That is school specific.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 12:47 pm to AustinAggie
Yes but there’s no real way to allow pro teams to use all their money on players and maintain fair competition.
Lakers, whoever the richest Nfl team is (cowboys?), Yankees, Manchester city and so on would absolutely dominate
Lakers, whoever the richest Nfl team is (cowboys?), Yankees, Manchester city and so on would absolutely dominate
Posted on 7/29/21 at 12:49 pm to Basura Blanco
Yep, which is a far more accurate reaction than "Ryan Day is a commie"
Posted on 7/29/21 at 12:50 pm to Shaft Williams
He knows Kentucky is fixin to pony up and outbid them for baws in their backyard. This is gonna be a boon for UK in Ohio, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. Who wants to play a B1G schedule when you can come here and play in a real conference for more money?
Posted on 7/29/21 at 12:56 pm to Shaft Williams
If Mr Day really believes that why doesn’t he be the first to put his money into the pool that can be divided to all the players as they put their funds in as well.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 12:57 pm to lewis and herschel
Although I do disagree with the SEC revenue distribution and really hope that it is re-evaluated once we are officially members, NIL is totally different. Apples to oranges my wayward friend. Apples to oranges.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 1:02 pm to M2FinAustin
quote:No one gives a frick what you want in this conference. If you're not on board with the setup then don't waste your time or ours joining. No one gives a frick if Texas doesn't like it and threatens to walk. You have zero leverage. And Oklahoma won't leave next go round with you once they're in the SEC. But if y'all want to go full retard, go ahead. The sooner you're gone (get the pun?) the better.
Although I do disagree with the SEC revenue distribution and really hope that it is re-evaluated once we are officially members
Posted on 7/29/21 at 1:05 pm to Shaft Williams
So lets stop and think for a second. What's to stop Bryce Young from taking some of his NIL money and paying his O-linemen for their NIL?
Posted on 7/29/21 at 2:06 pm to lewis and herschel
quote:Talk about a great way to divide your locker room…
I am pretty sure Day is asking the team to vote...
Posted on 7/29/21 at 2:46 pm to wareaglepete
quote:I've actually seen reports of this being done at another school. The school is "managing" the NIL deals into one of two pools. Team NIL Deal or Individual NIL Deal.
How does that work?
Sponsors can choose to offer deals to either the team or an individual and I'm sure the school admin will use their influence to get as many deals into the team pool as possible. The team deals will give all players a base pay by sharing in the pool of money. Every million dollars in the team pool pays the 85 man roster an $11,500 revenue share.
Think of it this way...
Who will be the first team to secure NIL roster money regardless of who the player may be. If I have sponsors lining up to pay my team 5 million per year for the next 10 years, the coach can recruit a 85-man team with a $50,000/year base salary.
The star players can still get their individual deals but everyone on scholarship gets a share of the team pool.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 2:55 pm to howieshoodlums
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I'm not going to advocate sharing NIL money, but what happens when 3 out of 5 offensive lineman aren't offered any NIL deals. Is that going to create discension amongst the players.
Would you be okay with Bryce Young making a millions dollars while your working your arse off to block for him and the RB's and making zip?
You are obviously ignoring what this NIL deal actually does. Don't tell me you believe UGA has no bagmen and has run a squeaky-clean program.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 2:57 pm to M2FinAustin
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Although I do disagree with the SEC revenue distribution and really hope that it is re-evaluated once we are officially members,
This is why you motherfrickers will always destroy conferences unless you are neutralized.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 2:58 pm to M2FinAustin
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Although I do disagree with the SEC revenue distribution and really hope that it is re-evaluated once we are officially members, NIL is totally different. Apples to oranges my wayward friend. Apples to oranges.
Yeah - the Longhorns in the SEC is going to be great. Just friggin' great. What could possibly go wrong ?
Posted on 7/29/21 at 3:00 pm to Shaft Williams
You do realize how the SEC distributes its dough?
In ironic form, mighty Texas (capital prowess) knocks on the door of the socialist SEC model.
I lean much more Friedman than Marx, but I do find this interesting.
In ironic form, mighty Texas (capital prowess) knocks on the door of the socialist SEC model.
I lean much more Friedman than Marx, but I do find this interesting.
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