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re: Rumor is that Sark has been offered the job
Posted on 12/20/20 at 8:19 pm to JesusQuintana
Posted on 12/20/20 at 8:19 pm to JesusQuintana
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1st RD QB, 5 star skill players all over the field and 5 stars all over the offensive line do they?
- He is one of the main reasons that Mac is possibly a 1st round QB. Mac was the #399 overall prospect, 3-star, who chose Alabama over Kentucky, Arizona State, Baylor and Boston College. Sark is an elite QB coach.
- Our only skill player that is a 5-star is Najee Harris - all of the WRs are 3 or 4 stars. It's still good talent. It's not "oh, anybody could be the best and most diverse offense in the country" good.
Sark is an incredible offensive coordinator. Whether he's a better head coach now than the relatively average head coach he was before is a reasonable question, but his offensive teaching and scheming is absolutely elite. Anyone who actually watches him call a game and watches the things we do and the way he schemes teams into and out of coverages we want would realize that. He's the best OC we've had during the Saban era.
And, I will add, he did a damn good job with the Falcons in his 2nd year, which has become more and more evident since he's been gone. He had a top 5 offense in basically every important category with no running backs and a terrible offensive line, and he got swept out because Quinn is a fvckstick and panicked.
This post was edited on 12/20/20 at 8:24 pm
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Posted on 12/20/20 at 8:22 pm to OmegaMan
If the goal is to beat Saban then this disciple thing hasn’t worked out for many.
Posted on 12/20/20 at 8:24 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Meh
Way more talent than every team he lines up against. Makes play calling easy.
Offense would not have been markedly different with any semi competent play caller. I know it looks great when you can turn around and hand it off to Najee and have him beat 3 or 4 guys on pretty much every run. Or drop back and throw up a post to Smith and know he’s going to be open.
Not saying he’s a bad OC. Just saying it doesn’t take a great one to put up numbers with that kind of talent
Way more talent than every team he lines up against. Makes play calling easy.
Offense would not have been markedly different with any semi competent play caller. I know it looks great when you can turn around and hand it off to Najee and have him beat 3 or 4 guys on pretty much every run. Or drop back and throw up a post to Smith and know he’s going to be open.
Not saying he’s a bad OC. Just saying it doesn’t take a great one to put up numbers with that kind of talent
Posted on 12/20/20 at 8:27 pm to JesusQuintana
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Offense would not have been markedly different with any semi competent play caller. I know it looks great when you can turn around and hand it off to Najee and have him beat 3 or 4 guys on pretty much every run. Or drop back and throw up a post to Smith and know he’s going to be open.
Against most of schedule? Sure.
Against Georgia and Texas A&M? No, we wouldn't have averaged 47 pts and 550 yards per game with just anybody calling plays. And we all know that because we've seen offenses with just as much talent (if not more) perform at a much, much lower level against defenses like that (see 2018 Alabama vs State, UGA and Clemson, for example).
This post was edited on 12/20/20 at 8:28 pm
Posted on 12/20/20 at 8:27 pm to JesusQuintana
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Why? I legitimately don’t understand this
It would take him away from Alabama.
Posted on 12/20/20 at 8:29 pm to OmegaMan
Yikes.
Posted on 12/20/20 at 8:30 pm to ThrGbagman
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Hide the good liquor
Bring out the shine.
Posted on 12/20/20 at 8:31 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Strange how he sucked in Atlanta. It’s almost like coaches are only as good as their players.
Posted on 12/20/20 at 8:32 pm to JesusQuintana
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Strange how he sucked in Atlanta
He didn't suck in Atlanta.
Shanny
2015 - #22 DVOA (#11 Yards Per Play)
2016 - #1 DVOA (#1 Yards Per Play)
Sark
2017 - #9 DVOA (#5 Yards Per Play) (#6 Drive Score Rate)
2018 - #9 DVOA (#5 Yards Per Play) (#4 Drive Score Rate)
Koetter
2019 - #15 DVOA (#15 Yards Per Play)
2020 - #22 DVOA (#19 Yards Per Play)
We had a OL and RB group full of literal waiver wire guys in 2018 and ended up a Top 5-10 offense.
This post was edited on 12/20/20 at 8:39 pm
Posted on 12/20/20 at 8:33 pm to OmegaMan
Hate it for Auburn when he turns them down.
Posted on 12/20/20 at 8:34 pm to siliconvalleytiger
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If the goal is to beat Saban then this disciple thing hasn’t worked out for many.
It's because they were all defensive disciples.
Posted on 12/20/20 at 8:35 pm to Will2nd
Regardless of what you think of the SEC this year. Bama has played
Florida
Auburn
LSU
Tennessee
Georgia
A&M
And are averaging 50 pts a game. Bama's offensive looks like Spurrier coming into the SEC in 1990
Florida
Auburn
LSU
Tennessee
Georgia
A&M
And are averaging 50 pts a game. Bama's offensive looks like Spurrier coming into the SEC in 1990
Posted on 12/20/20 at 8:35 pm to Will2nd
Jimbo, McElwain?
Posted on 12/20/20 at 8:38 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Atlanta had the highest scoring offense in the NFL before he took over.
Hypothetically, let’s say he is offered and takes the Auburn job and leaves Bama before the playoffs. Do you expect a markedly different output from this offense with whom ever takes over?
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The offense's scoring output, under his guidance, dropped from 33.8 points per game (leading the NFL in 2016) to 22.1 points per game in 2017. In 2018, the offense's scoring improved to 25.9 points per game. On December 31, 2018, he was fired as offensive coordinator.
Hypothetically, let’s say he is offered and takes the Auburn job and leaves Bama before the playoffs. Do you expect a markedly different output from this offense with whom ever takes over?
Posted on 12/20/20 at 8:39 pm to JesusQuintana
Sark did a nice job at Washington. Not great, but he certainly got that program off the mat and built it back to competitive. UW was a dumpster when he started there and he left a competitive winning program ready to take the next step.
USC was a wash because he got fired before having enough seasons/data to evaluate his overall performance. Obviously the alcohol-stuff was a black eye, but that has nothing to do with his pedigree/potential as a coach.
Sark is a good coach IMO. I think he will do well at Auburn.
USC was a wash because he got fired before having enough seasons/data to evaluate his overall performance. Obviously the alcohol-stuff was a black eye, but that has nothing to do with his pedigree/potential as a coach.
Sark is a good coach IMO. I think he will do well at Auburn.
This post was edited on 12/20/20 at 8:43 pm
Posted on 12/20/20 at 8:41 pm to JesusQuintana
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Atlanta had the highest scoring offense in the NFL before he took over.
Atlanta was coming off possibly the single greatest, most in sync and hottest 2 months of offensive football I've ever seen. And the coordinator he took over for was (and still is) universally lauded as one of the greatest offensive coaches in football. And it took him a full year to get in sync with the players and scheme in Atlanta (as evident by our 2015 offensive numbers in year 1).
I'm an Atlanta Falcons fan. Sark did an decent job in 2017, but an absolutely terrible job in the red zone. He was lost and nothing clicked. Sark did a damn good job in 2018. Him getting fired was idiotic, and it showed with what happened in 2019 with Koetter.
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Hypothetically, let’s say he is offered and takes the Auburn job and leaves Bama before the playoffs. Do you expect a markedly different output from this offense with whom ever takes over?
Yes - almost all of us are very, very nervous about him taking this job right now. It would drop our odds on winning the national title from probably 55-60% to 35-40%, IMHO.
Will we all of a sudden stop being able to score? No.
Will we end up kicking 1-2 extra FGs in the red zone against a great defense and punting 1-2 more times a game? Yes, I think we will. And that margin is more than enough.
This post was edited on 12/20/20 at 8:44 pm
Posted on 12/20/20 at 8:41 pm to Leto II
Whos the third one?
Stark
Kiffin
Stark
Kiffin
Posted on 12/20/20 at 8:41 pm to Farmer1906
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He’s better than Steele and O
Stelle, yes. O? How many national titles does Sark have again?
Posted on 12/20/20 at 8:44 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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And that would make 3 former USC head coaches in the west
Thats wild lol
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