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Posted on 10/25/23 at 9:06 pm to
Posted by Jumpinjack
Member since Oct 2021
6485 posts
Posted on 10/25/23 at 9:06 pm to
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why does every fanbase that’s plays you regularly say the exact same thing about Bama and the refs?


You know the answer. You know the answer. Use the data.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
8164 posts
Posted on 10/25/23 at 9:06 pm to
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Tenn coach said it best silience.


Maybe folks should try that here. Maybe it will work. Because sky screaming for 10 years has not done anything.
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
4445 posts
Posted on 10/25/23 at 9:28 pm to
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I already explained this in a post earlier in this very thread.


Your post did nothing to explain why every fanbase says what they say about Bama and the refs and not other teams they play/lose to

Florida has had UT’s number for years and UT fans don’t blame systemic ref bias. Every other fanbase that plays you says the same thing. Weird huh?

LSU probably has a pretty good record against fellow SEC west teams the past decade. But those losing teams don’t all complain that the refs are biased to LSU

It’s just Alabama, isn’t it. Why is that?
Posted by Jumpinjack
Member since Oct 2021
6485 posts
Posted on 10/25/23 at 9:31 pm to
I don't know, two obvious face mask ignored on a scoring drive - Burton catch and Milroe run. Tell me more bitch. Sorry, pussy is what I meant.
Posted by thatthang
Member since Jan 2012
6776 posts
Posted on 10/25/23 at 9:36 pm to
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Tbh this notion that Bama gets timely penalties to save them is ludicrous. So you think refs are willing to call more flags on Bama no matter what but somehow they have the foresight to call the "right" penalties at the "right" time so that Bama wins? Seriously? Do you know how difficult that would be to pull off? Impossible.


Your entire post was spot on but this part right here has been my sermon for years. Anyone who wants to say Bama under Saban gets the “Michael Jordan” treatment…well that’s fine by me. I would argue the point and could probably point out just as many calls that went the other way, but i’ll entertain that sentiment. Refs are humans and humans are biased. The top and most athletic teams often get the calls, and this goes across all sports and levels.

But I want to be very clear on this: anyone (like the OP) who says anything like “it’s the timing of the calls” is batshit, smears feces on their bathroom walls crazy. And not only that, they simply lack the baseline intelligence required to see that thought through to its clear conclusion. They are alleging an intentional and highly coordinated scheme involving hundreds of people every year working together to achieve their dastardly ends. The refs would have to be some of the most highly functioning people on the planet to call the vast majority of the plays correctly in real time; while also operating a secret communication or ranking system that tells them when a game situation has risen to a point intense enough where a bogus call is sufficiently impactful. And they do this for what? Because they’re all bammer fans or they’re getting paid? Usually the accusation is the latter. How much are they paid to fix a game? How are the funds sent? Obviously cash, but delivered by whom? And you’re also telling me that in 130 years, this system has NEVER leaked to the public? Not one honest person out of the thousands it took to run this system over the years ever came forward as a whistleblower? So it’s either that, or the officials just kind of suck. You get to choose.

Next time someone says “it’s the timing of the calls,” think of the above. Sometimes I think being that dumb might actually be a blessing in this fricked up world.
Posted by TheTideMustRoll
Birmingham, AL
Member since Dec 2009
8906 posts
Posted on 10/25/23 at 9:37 pm to
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It’s just Alabama, isn’t it. Why is that?


If you think fans on this board only complain about the refs in games against Alabama then your glasses are such a deep shade of puke orange that you probably can't read this sentence anyway.

But you're still dodging my initial question. If the refs are actively favoring Alabama to win, then why do calls like the PI on the interception in last year's TSIO still happen? And just saying, "Oh, the refs decided to call that anyway but they still mostly favor Alabama" is a copout and won't be allowed. They literally took the game away from Alabama and made it possible for Tennessee to still win, all on a judgment call that could have easily not been thrown. Why would they do that if their motive is to make Alabama win games?
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
4445 posts
Posted on 10/25/23 at 9:43 pm to
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Why would they do that if their motive is to make Alabama win games?


Because making sure Bama wins at all cost isn’t their sole motive if Alabama won every game through overwhelming shady calls then the SEC would cease to be. Teams would leave. No one is saying all calls will always go Bama’s way

But to say that everyone else is wrong and Bama doesn’t get favoritism from the refs is laughable at this point. Every other fanbase isn’t wrong. And they all say the same thing about Bama (and only Bama). And you can’t address that, can you?

Posted by tickfawtiger
Killian LA
Member since Sep 2005
10989 posts
Posted on 10/25/23 at 10:29 pm to
BINGO !
Posted by TheTideMustRoll
Birmingham, AL
Member since Dec 2009
8906 posts
Posted on 10/25/23 at 11:36 pm to
quote:

Every other fanbase isn’t wrong. And they all say the same thing about Bama (and only Bama). And you can’t address that, can you?


I don't have to. You're the one making a claim something out of the ordinary is going on. Where is your proof?
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Tittleman's Crest
Member since Feb 2009
52755 posts
Posted on 10/26/23 at 9:10 am to
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But to say that everyone else is wrong and Bama doesn’t get favoritism from the refs is laughable at this point. Every other fanbase isn’t wrong. And they all say the same thing about Bama (and only Bama). And you can’t address that, can you?



So you are saying that just because a bunch of people believe something to be true, that is has to be true? Compelling argument.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Tittleman's Crest
Member since Feb 2009
52755 posts
Posted on 10/26/23 at 9:11 am to
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Bama just gets the clear majority of questionable calls.


Prove it. If its so obvious, then it should be extremely easy to prove?
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26981 posts
Posted on 10/26/23 at 9:15 am to
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The test is calls/non calls on “judgment” penalties like forearm shots to the heads of running backs


fify.


And you can also throw in "judgment" calls like questionable interceptions at the goalline given to the defense in supposed "games of the century."
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26981 posts
Posted on 10/26/23 at 9:18 am to
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Florida has had UT’s number for years and UT fans don’t blame systemic ref bias.




You people are so fricking stupid. The most blatant missed call last week was the forearm shot to the head. You have to be either mindboggingly stupid or just hopelessly dishonest to not grasp that. If the refs are biased, that call sure as hell doesn't get ignored.
Posted by GamecockUltimate
Columbia,SC
Member since Feb 2019
6881 posts
Posted on 10/26/23 at 9:19 am to
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I don’t think we are necessarily hyper-sensitive, we just seem to get called out more than others I guess. Explaining it to another fan is exhausting and repetitive. Even with facts flying in their face. When you’re winning a lot of games, others want to justify a reason. Most don’t see it as better players, better preparation, better coaches, better program. Georgia will be next on the chopping block accused of getting all the calls. It can’t be because they are just a better team.
Sensitive no, exhausted yes.




I mean the last time we played yall we got called for a fantom hold on a fake fg that went for a lot of yards (maybe a td). Better preparation played no part in that. it was just a bad call

when we played florida several years ago, they had a guy hold our DB in open space for 40 yards. no flag.

again bad calls just happen. I dont think its yalls fault as fans, but I do think the SEC officials have a slight bias for the teams that could win titles.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26981 posts
Posted on 10/26/23 at 9:21 am to
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Bama seems to always benefit from those judgment calls at critical points in the game and this will not show on total statistical comparison.


All but... you know, the UT game last year, the extra second Aubie got to kick a field goal before the half in 2019, the three pass interference calls on the last drive against A&M in 2021, the 2013 Aubie game with illegal men downfield to tie the game, the punch in the head to roydell on a KEY 3rd down play this year.
I could go on but I'm not.


Don't forget the "interception" at the goalline given to LSU on Marquis Maze's pass in the "game of the century" in 2011. It literally gave them the game. For LSU fans to bitch about bias after that call just demonstrates a level of mental impairment bordering on retardation. If SEC refs are biased toward Alabama, LSU doesn't get that interception call.
Posted by 14caratgoldjones
Uniontown, Al
Member since Aug 2009
1320 posts
Posted on 10/26/23 at 9:30 am to
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Every other fanbase isn’t wrong. And they all say the same thing about Bama (and only Bama). And you can’t address that, can you?


Every other fanbase being LSU, Tn, Au. 99% of the time?
Why is that? Why is just those three mainly? Anything in common? All hate Bama with a passion? Maybe ONE team has shattered more dreams between these three stooges than any other team is CFB? HHHMMMM…Who could that team be?
.Where are TAMU, Kentucky, Vandy, Fla, Ga, Mizzou, Ole Miss, MSU, Ark, and S Carolina hourly threads about this subject.
Just three of the teams that hate Bama the most. I tell ya I can’t figure this thing out.
I’m convinced it MUST be a conspiracy. HA!
Posted by GainesvilleDawg
Georgia
Member since Aug 2019
502 posts
Posted on 10/26/23 at 9:39 am to
Tyler Simmons was ONSIDES
Posted by TheTideMustRoll
Birmingham, AL
Member since Dec 2009
8906 posts
Posted on 10/26/23 at 9:58 am to
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Because making sure Bama wins at all cost isn’t their sole motive if Alabama won every game through overwhelming shady calls then the SEC would cease to be. Teams would leave. No one is saying all calls will always go Bama’s way


Let's really parse this argument. What this person is saying is, "Alabama wins so much because the refs favor them. But the refs don't always favor them. Sometimes they call things straight. The only method I am using to determine whether or not a game was called fairly is whether or not Alabama won. It doesn't matter which team was called for more penalties in the game, or what any specific situations were in which calls were or were not made. All that matters is whether or not Alabama won the game. If they lost, the refs didn't favor Bama that game because reasons. If Alabama won, the refs clearly did favor them because cheating and SEC offices and stuff."

How does that make any kind of logical sense, or can anyone believe it to be anything other than sheer butthurtedness?
Posted by bruintiger
nyny
Member since Jan 2007
430 posts
Posted on 10/26/23 at 10:16 am to
Eric Reid's interception was a reviewable play. Not what I am talking about. Bama benefits from non reviewable calls like holding. pass interference or roughing the passer. I am sorry but EVERYONE knows its a thing and the bama hypersensitivity on this point makes my case.
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