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re: Re-Evaluating the "BIG 6" of the SEC

Posted on 1/5/21 at 2:34 pm to
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31361 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 2:34 pm to
100% the other big 6 are not even close to bama, were you under some impression that they were


say what you want but once you factor in everything, Nobody is close to bama across the country.

the cfb data warehouse had the bet rankings

LINK


pdating the numbers, Based off their Formula I think Bama is still by far #1 and its not close. Southern Cal would be 5th now behind OU and OSU.

LSU would for sure jump Nebraska, prolly texas too or be very very close.

UGA would have jumped Tennessee and Clemson would have jumped to 15.

Best guess of 2020 CFB Data Warehouse rankings

1. Bama
2. ND
3. Oklahoma
4. Ohio State
5. USC
6. Michigan
7. LSU ( prolly overtake michigan by 2025)
8. Texas
9. Nebraska
10. UGA
11. Tennessee
12. UF (will overtake Tennessee within 3-4 years)
13. Auburn
14. Penn State
15. Clemson(will jump to 11 with a CFP win. 13 with loss in the championship)
16. Miami
17. Minnesota
18. GT
19. Washington
20. Florida St
21. Michigan St
22. Texas A&M
23. Pitt
24. Arkansas
25. Wisconsin
26. Stanford
27. UCLA
28. Ole Miss
29. Iowa
30. Oregon

for the SEC its very simple

Tier 1

1. Bama


Tier 2
2. LSU
3. UGA
4. UT
5. UF
6. Aub

Tier 3
7. A&M
8. Arky

Tier 4
9. Ole Miss


Tier 5
everyone else


Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 2:37 pm to
quote:

Top 25 Blue Bloods
No Vandy? List is crap.
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
25061 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 2:38 pm to
There are so many metrics that go into measuring what makes a top program stand above the rest.

Basing this simply off AP rankings is... insufficient.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22741 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 3:31 pm to
quote:

Tenn is not blue blood

That's like saying Nebraska is still


Nebraska is still a blue blood.

Tennessee has never been a blue blood.

There are 8 blue bloods:

Alabama
Oklahoma
Ohio St
Notre Dame
Michigan
Southern Cal
Texas
Nebraska
Posted by BlindTiger7
Houston
Member since Sep 2016
2683 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 3:40 pm to
Great to see my school, THE Ohio State University, performing so well
Posted by Gings5
HTX
Member since Jul 2016
8004 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 3:46 pm to
Remind us who won the natty last year?
Posted by Peter167
Member since Mar 2020
6092 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 3:48 pm to
Does 20+ years of mediocrity or trash not matter? Also leaving the big 12 massive frick up that they will never adjust to.

Eric crouch was the last good thing they had. He won a heisman and if u look at stats it's pretty obvious the sophomore grossman got screwed.

Tebow broke the mold on that bs rule.
This post was edited on 1/5/21 at 3:50 pm
Posted by Elihu
Member since Dec 2020
847 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 3:54 pm to
Poor Nebraska...how the mighty have fallen.
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
46199 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 3:55 pm to
Anyone that wants to reevaluate the Big 6 doesn’t even understand what the Big 6 is.

There’s an objective criteria already established to whether you’re in or not.
This post was edited on 1/5/21 at 3:56 pm
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 4:12 pm to
Cool concept for the graph, but its not accurate.

For instance, Clemson has 115 Top 5 appearances now.... on this graph they appear to only have around 60 so its obviously out-dated.

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Since this graph appears to be trying to rank programs by both Top 25 appearances as well as Top 5 appearances, weighted equally, I've put it into list form below to get an accurate ranking using those two criteria.

**I achieved this by taking each program's number of both Top 5 appearances as well as their Top 25 appearances and divided each by the program leader's numerical total for each of the criteria. This gives each program a percentile compared to the leader. Then average those two numbers together and it spits out the order.

1. Ohio State- .966
2. Oklahoma- .954
3. Alabama- .942
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4. Notre Dame- .814
5. Michigan- .809
6. USC- .750
7. Nebraska- .738
8. Texas- .711
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9. Florida St.- .585
10. Florida- .559
11. Penn St.- .549
12. Miami- .510
13. LSU- .501
14. Georgia- .493
15. Auburn- .470
16. Tennessee- .458
----
17. UCLA- .414
18. Clemson- .385
19. Texas A&M- .344
20. Michigan St.- .342
21. Washington- .333
22. Arkansas- .290
23. Wisconsin- .274
24. Oregon- 253
25. Iowa- .244

28. Ole Miss- .226
37. Missouri- .163
52. Miss St.- .118
53. S. Carolina- 1.06

Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 4:15 pm to
quote:

Also interesting to note Clemson being behind Arkansas and A&M


They are not. The graph is incorrect.

Actual Top 5 appearances (National All-Time Rank):

115- Clemson (#17)
80- Texas A&M (#20)
57- Arkansas (#27)

Actual Top 25 appearances (National All-Time Rank):

468- Clemson (#18)
468- Texas A&M (#18)
417- Arkansas (#21)
Posted by jatebe
Queen of Links
Member since Oct 2008
18284 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 4:30 pm to
That must be an old chart.

Bama has been in the ap poll 824 weeks. That chart shows us down below 800. LINK

Bama is also ranked as the top team for top 5 rankings at 427. Probably passed OU this year. LINK

Posted by calcotron
Member since Nov 2007
8305 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 4:36 pm to
quote:

Nebraska is still a blue blood.

Tennessee has never been a blue blood.

There are 8 blue bloods:

Alabama
Oklahoma
Ohio St
Notre Dame
Michigan
Southern Cal
Texas
Nebraska

Thanks for again confirming how useless the term "blue blood" has become. When half of the list has been irrelevant for decades, list is shite. History, great. Relevance, none.
Posted by Grievous Angel
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Dec 2008
9702 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 4:36 pm to
There is a clear separation in the top right. Not coincidentally, those are the "blue bloods."
Posted by jatebe
Queen of Links
Member since Oct 2008
18284 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 4:43 pm to
Yeah, that chart was 3 years ago, January 2018. LINK
Posted by Sid E Walker
InsecureU ©
Member since Nov 2013
23887 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 4:48 pm to
quote:

Fake Ohio fans in dis bitch.


Lifelong

Love... Kirk Herbstreit

Do you cry often?
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22741 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 4:54 pm to
quote:

Does 20+ years of mediocrity or trash not matter?


No. Hell, Michigan has 1 split title in just the past 60+ freaking years. And they didn't even deserve that much if you ask me.

But they are one of the blue blood programs.

No clue what the rest of your post was about.


Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22741 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 4:58 pm to
quote:


Thanks for again confirming how useless the term "blue blood" has become. When half of the list has been irrelevant for decades, list is shite. History, great. Relevance, none.


I think it's more that people don't understand what the term means.

Posted by calcotron
Member since Nov 2007
8305 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 5:00 pm to
quote:

I think it's more that people don't understand what the term means.


You are probably right. They want to use it to mean the programs that are elite right now, and that's not what it means.
Posted by icheerforgeorgia
Member since Nov 2011
1808 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 5:05 pm to
Oh great. All of a sudden we have OSU fans in here? Just as we got rid of the Clemson fans.
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