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Ranking SEC Offenses and Defenses

Posted on 10/31/23 at 2:47 pm
Posted by FootballFrenzy
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 2:47 pm
In terms of effectiveness (not stats, not points scored/allowed, etc), what are the top 3 defenses and offenses in the SEC? What I mean by "not stats" is, how good are the teams at bearing down and getting the job down when it matters most? The stats don't always tell that.
Posted by geauxnavybeatbama
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 2:49 pm to
Jimbo has the number one defense by far. He doesn't allow his team or others to score
Posted by Dawgfanman
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 2:59 pm to
quote:

What I mean by "not stats" is, how good are the teams at bearing down and getting the job down when it matters most? The stats don't always tell that.


Would think scoring offense/defense would cover “when it matters most”.

Posted by FootballFrenzy
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 3:05 pm to
quote:

Would think scoring offense/defense would cover “when it matters most”.

I mean what defense is the best at getting stops, what offense is able to score even when they start at their own 2, that sort of thing.
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 3:06 pm to
See what opponent has punted the most and has had the most turnovers.

Vice versa
Posted by Pikes Peak Tiger
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 3:06 pm to
quote:

FootballFrenzy


Desperately trying to find a measure where LSU isn’t the best offense in the conference.

They are. Fortunately for you and the rest of the SEC, the defense is abysmal
This post was edited on 10/31/23 at 3:07 pm
Posted by diddlydawg7
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 3:08 pm to
This seems fairly straightforward IMO

Offense
1. LSU
2. Georgia
3. Ole Miss

Defense
1. Georgia
2. Alabama
3. Texas A&M
Posted by FootballFrenzy
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 3:11 pm to
quote:

Desperately trying to find a measure where LSU isn’t the best offense in the conference.

That's actually hilarious...unlike some, I don't spend that much time thinking about teams I hate.
Posted by tide06
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 3:14 pm to
Advanced analytics says:

FEI Offense:
LSU (#2)
UGA (5)
Ole Miss (15)
UT (18)
A&M (20)
Missou (22)
Bama (25)

FEI Defense:
Bama (4)
A&M (11)
UGA (12)
Aub (19)
UT (21)

Posted by WhiskeyRiverBlues
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 3:18 pm to
In the SEC, Tennessee has:

- Number one ranked rushing offense

- 9th ranked passing attack

On defense:

- 4th ranked total D which is neck and neck with and basically the same level as Bama, Aggies and UGA

- 3rd in team sacks

- 4th in least amount of rushing yards allowed






This post was edited on 10/31/23 at 3:19 pm
Posted by DallasTiger45
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 3:19 pm to
quote:

Defense 1. Georgia 2. Alabama 3. Texas A&M


UGA’s defense may play the best moving forward (gun to head I’d probably project that), but Bammer and A&M’s defense have been better this year imo

Posted by WhiskeyRiverBlues
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 3:21 pm to
Tennessee, A&M and Bama are almost interchangeable on defense imo.

We did just lose our shutdown corner in Hadden due to injury though who was graded a top 3 DB in the nation before we went down.
Posted by DawginSC
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 3:24 pm to
The reality is stats work pretty well to answer this question.

I prefer yards per play.

On defense, UGA and A&M are both allowing 4.55 yards per play which is tops in the conference. Bama is just slightly behind at 4.57 yards per play.

On offense, LSU leads the conference (and nation) at 8.09 yards per play. UGA is second at 7.16, Ole Miss is third at 6.8 yards per play.
Posted by tide06
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 3:24 pm to
quote:

- 4th ranked total D which is neck and neck with and basically the same level as Bama, Aggies and UGA

The UT defense is nowhere close from an analytics perspective to any of those defenses.
This post was edited on 10/31/23 at 3:25 pm
Posted by tide06
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 3:32 pm to
Opp Adj Offensive YPP:
LSU (1)
UGA (10)
Missou (14)
UK (28)

Ole Miss (43)
UT (48)
Bama (51)

Opp Adj Defensive YPP
UGA (6)
A&M (7)
Bama (14)
UT (27)
Ole Miss (32)

*LSU (99)
Posted by tide06
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 3:41 pm to
Opp Adj Offensive PPD:
-LSU (3)
-UGA (4)
-Missou (16)
-OM (19)
-UT (34)
-A&M (36)
-Bama (45)

Opp Adj Defensive PPD
-UGA (7)
-Bama (14)
-A&M (19)
-UT (33)

*LSU (103)

Posted by tide06
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 3:43 pm to
quote:

The reality is stats work pretty well to answer this question. I prefer yards per play.

YPP is often who looks the best to the eye test but there are a lot of offenses who chew up lots of yards but can’t convert them into points.

To me PPD tracks better with outcomes if that makes sense?
Posted by Hogfan13
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 3:44 pm to
quote:

Would think scoring offense/defense would cover “when it matters most”.


He means "help me find a way to say that A&M has a good defense, since the stats and our record don't bear it out".
Posted by tide06
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 3:48 pm to
quote:

Desperately trying to find a measure where LSU isn’t the best offense in the conference. They are. Fortunately for you and the rest of the SEC, the defense is abysmal

LSU is basically a Kyler Murray era OU team.

It’s really rare to see a team track #1 on one side of the ball and 100+ on the other side.

Yall are basically inverse Iowa this year which is insane given some of the talent you have on that side of the ball (Perkins, etc).
Posted by That LSU Guy
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 3:50 pm to
quote:

That's actually hilarious...unlike some, I don't spend that much time thinking about teams I hate.


quote:

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