re: Ranking all SEC football Programs

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Can Arkansas actually get 1964 when the AP and Coaches didn't have them #1?

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Yes. Those weren't the only major polls at the time.

does an arky fan really have any room to talk about fictitious football titles?

To me its simple: I don't deny Arky's title but I think A&M has three total.

Its all about consistency.

Texas A&M's 2 teams didn't even believe that they had won the championship. Arkansas certainly did.






I have seen the trophy with my own eyes

Re-ordered thusly for accuracy (notes at the bottom):

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1) Alabama - Not even going to research: anywhere between 8 and 136 national Championships (The Greatest Program of all-time)

2) Tennessee - 6 National Championships (4 retro-active), 16 Conference Titles, 833 wins

3) LSU - 3 National Championships, 14 Conference Titles, 787 wins ((1))

4) Georgia - 2 National Championships (1 retro-active), 15 Conference Titles, 808 wins (ahead of LSU because of all-time wins)

5) Auburn - 3 National Championships (Could be 5 but they were screwed twice), 12 Conference Titles, 766 wins ((2))

6) Florida - 3 National Championships, 8 Conference Titles, 714 wins (Number of Conference Titles put them below Auburn)

7) Ole Miss - 3 National Championships (2 retro-active), 6 Conference Titles, 660 wins (Nattys put them above Missouri) ((3))

8) Texas A&M - 3 National Championships (2 retroactive), 18 Conference Titles, 732 wins (Only below Arkansas because of their 30-41-3 record in the series)

9) Arkansas - 1 National Championship, 13 Conference Titles, 713 wins ((4))

10) Kentucky - 1 National Championship (retroactive) , 2 Conference Titles, 597 wins ((5))

11) Missouri - 0 National Championships, 15 Conference Titles, 671 wins

12) Vanderbilt - 0 National Championships, 14 Conference Titles, 600 wins ((6))

13) South Carolina - 0 National Championships, 1 Conference Title, 602 wins (only above Vandy because of series dominance)

14) Mississippi State - 0 National Championships, 1 Conference Title, 555 wins (below Vandy because of all-time wins and conference titles)

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((1)) One more NC is more prestigious than 21 extra wins over 125 years, so LSU before UGA.

((2)) If UGA is allowed their retro-active championship from 1942, then Auburn is allowed their retro-active championship from 1913. Starts on Page 108 (LINK) And, yeah, Auburn could validly argue 2 more, but we won't have that discussion here.

((3)) Ole Miss jumps Tex A&M and Arky because Ole Miss is actually an SEC team.

((4)) Arky OP put Arky before Tex A&M on his list? Funny joke!

((5)) Kentucky over Mizzou because they at least have 1 pretend championship and they are better than Mizzou in the sport that Mizzou is most proud of. Plus, Mizzou's conference championships from a shitty conference don't impress me.

((6)) Vandy over USC because Vandy was at least once a mighty power back in their day.

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It's ridiculous! I was hoping to avoid this discussion by doing school-claimed titles...but it is unavoidable I suppose

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Not really. It's your list. You set the parameters. Again. YOUR LIST. You do what you want with it and if people don't like it, then they can make their own list.

See?

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Don't care.

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Looks like you DO care since you keep posting about it and all.
Guess you won't be giving Alabama anymore crap for retroactively claiming titles then, huh? Can't have it both ways.

And LSU is still > UGA.

I think Conference Titles, Wins, Ranked Seasons > Head to Head.