re: Question for Georgia fans

Georgia fired Richt because he couldn't win a National Championship. They hired Kirby to win a National Championship. Kirby is going to have to produce eventually. I agree that the pressure is on after next year (year 4) to do just that.

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It just seems like Kirby is set to be put in a similar path if he loses this game.

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What? 11-1 with a chance go to the playoff is way above anyone's pre-season expectations for this team. Couple that with last year's SEC 'ship and Rose Bowl win - Kirby's the anti-Richt.

Only expectation for this Sat. is that the Dawgs will fight like hell, win or lose.

I think as fans in general we have wildly unrealistic expectations for coaches. My expectation was for there to be top 10 recruiting classes (hopefully top 5), an offensive/defensive identity, highly disciplined teams, beating the teams you should beat on a regular basis, and competing for a playoff spot every year. Saying "He has to start beating Nick Saban" or else we need to get rid of him is a stupid coaching thesis to begin with.

Richt failure wasn't really on losing to certain teams, but the way in which he lost to them. I was more upset at getting effectively destroyed in the Georgia Dome against Boise State, routinely losing to shitty UF/UT teams, or losing to UCF in the Liberty Bowl than I was the Blackout game or the SECCG. Richt's control on his staff, players, and overall program always seemed like it was razor thin, and the fact that he couldn't impose his will on recruits, players, teams, or really anything else was what ended his tenure at UGA in my opinion. Kirby has done more to instill a culture in the past 2 years than Richt was able to maintain in his last 10, which has me really excited about the potential of the program, and reinforces my thought that UGA has the right guy for the job.

ETA: Reason I wasn't as upset at Blackout game was mostly because we had lost our entire offensive line early in season, and I didn't think we deserved the #1 ranking anyway. But i may be in the minority here.

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Saying "He has to start beating Nick Saban" or else we need to get rid of him is a stupid coaching thesis to begin with.

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I'm asking if that will become the narrative if he again loses on Saturday?

Currently it's not the narrative because he's only lost to Saban once.

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I'm asking if that will become the narrative if he again loses on Saturday?

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In some circles, yes.
Here, for example.

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Mark Richt's Achilles heel was that he could not beat Alabama and Nick Saban.

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That is the achilles heel of the entire collective of College football since 2009. By all means though, please keep firing coaches and keeping perpetual turnover, doubt, and instability going at Bama's rival programs.

Gus has more success against Saban than any other coach yet here Auburn stands ready to kick him to the curb. Just playing right into Saban's hands and insuring he will continue to pick and choose what recruits he wants.

So if Alabama beats Georgia this week and next year with an all-time historic offense should Georgia really put the heat on Kirby? He's recruiting his arse off and installed Georgia as a perennial top 5 program. It wold be crazy! Keep fielding solid teams and eventually Bama will a have chink in their armor and you will beat them, but it won't mean you have surpassed them.

Saban is an absolutely relentless competitor and his playing field is the recruiting trail and the top to bottom organization of his program. There is no magical hire out there to be made that will make that disappear.

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Jake always proving he is wrong. Richt struggled to finish in the top 25. That’s way away from #1.

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So Kirby wasn't hired to win the big games and bring a NC? Is that what you are saying? Richt finished in the top 25 in 12 of his 15 years at Georgia. He had a #2 finish just like Kirby. He had 8 top 10 finishes in 15 years. It is like you don't even know your own team

Kirby is the second best coach in the country. Plus he’s one of the best recruiters in the country. He’s not going anywhere.

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Which like I have been saying there is very little to no difference between Richt and Kirby.

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Do you have any idea how bad his recruiting was the 2nd half of his career?Or how bad his '13 class was?Not 1 Sr was drafted out of the class and the '10,'11,12 and '13 classes had less players drafted than 6 SEC teams including OM and Arkansas.Thank goodness Pruitt came along amd stepped up the '14 and '15 classes or CKS would've inherited a complete disaster.

It's idiotic to think both came into the same situation
especially with senior classes each inherited.

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we are now going to move the goalposts to both polls now

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That’s what the original point was based on, so nothing has been moved by me.

Speaking of trying to move posts, you have gone from comparing what got richt fired to how good the coaches did in their first 3 years. It’s a completely different topic and totally irrelevant.