re: Question for Alabama fans regarding Saban

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I just wish that the person who made fun of Rich Rodriguez's wife, would've never been born.

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I remember the day RR was announced - I was sitting in ATL airport on my way to Cabo for a week long vacation. I read that RichRod had accepted the Bama HC job. I didn't think too highly of the hire, and was mainly looking forward to enjoying warm & sunny Cabo in December.

When I got back in the states a week later and read the headlines, I was in shock that he'd turned down the job. I cursed Mal Moore for days, and honestly felt like he was an inept idiot. I later had to repent for cursing Mal.

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We all have them, but it seems Bama's are more vocal.

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Believe me LSU has just as many. And at least our idiots are right.

i'd honestly say LSU fans are the most vocal, perhaps in the nation....

but i mean, we're like two doors down from y'all geographically compared most other teams/fanbases etc... we got some vocal mofo's. and you can hear me or not here, but i personally believe most of those people were born in the post Bear era where Auburn beat us more often than not and we did nothing until Stallings, which was short lived and then we took a drop into the pure abyss after Stallings left until Saban.

this created a TON of Bama fans that still somehow convinced themselves that we WERE a better team or program than most of the rest of the nation.... like nothing was going on. almost pure denial... i say almost because deep down they all knew how bad things really were and wanted to smash everyone that contradicted how excellent "we still were."

it would be a lot like ruling the whole world, and then having it pulled from you as easy as.... it takes for one man to retire and die.

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The only ones I think Bama shouldn't claim are the one that were retro actively claimed using a poll that wasn't even in existence until a decade after the games were played. That's absurd.

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Again Bama isn't the only school to do this. And actually, the NCAA uses a couple retroactive polls in their list of recognized national titles for back then.

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Alabama started the season ranked #l in the AP. USC pre season ranked #9.

Bama's only loss that year was to #7 USC

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This is where you should have stopped writing. You can't "excuse" away what was written. Bama and USC finished the season with the same record.

USC beat Bama H2H. Case closed.

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So, in fact you can be "voted" into the SECCG.

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When did that happen?

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An actual example of this occurring was the 2008 Big 12 season. TTU, TEX, and OU all tied for 1st in the Big 12 South.

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Ahh, right, in the Big 12. You're just arguing for argument sake. The SECCG is not voted on. It is won by a team who got there by winning on the field. A team who won their division. A team who then beats the other division winner. That is an SEC Champion. You guys are a joke trying to pass off the SECCG like it's meaningless.

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This is where you should have stopped writing.

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You don't read very well, do you? USC did beat Alabama early in the season. Bama dropped in the polls below USC. Then USC got beat by an unranked team which dropped them below Alabama. Alabama did not lose another game for USC to jump us.

Other teams above Alabama and USC did lose which helped Bama to go to #2 and USC to #3.

Alabama played and defeated the #1, only unbeaten team in the nation to become #1... AP, FWAA, NFF, NCF, and a few others voted for Alabama.

USC played and defeated the #5, 1-loss Michigan team... and won on a controversial play. So USC jumped to #2 in the AP... UPI, SR and a few others voted for USC.

Bama's 1978 AP national championship is legit.

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this created a TON of Bama fans that still somehow convinced themselves that we WERE a better team or program than most of the rest of the nation.... like nothing was going on. almost pure denial... i say almost because deep down they all knew how bad things really were and wanted to smash everyone that contradicted how excellent "we still were."

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I agree. That's why Saban was the perfect hire for Bama. He had the hardware and the balls to come in and tell people at Bama that tradition only means so much. He made Bama upgrade their facilities( which were probably in the bottom half of the SEC if we're being honest) and instilled a mindset of what have you done for me lately and made people realize that titles won in the 70's ,didn't mean crap to 99% of today's recruits. Saban and Bama are a PERFECT MATCH(which is why , IMO, he stay there until he retires). Bama fans want excellence from their football program and Saban expects excellence from hisself and his team. He has a chance to go down as the greatest CFB coach of all time. If he wins one more National title, IMO it will put him at #1. To win 5 titles in , say a 14 year span from LSU to Bama, would be far more Impressive than what Bear did. Saban is doing it during the sec's greatest era of football. Lets be honest ,Bear had built in advantages that Saban doesn't. No scholly limit and he also had the recruiting advantage of being one of the VERY FEW southern teams on TV consistently. That was a huge deal back then. Also the parity in CFB has never been as widespread as it is now.

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( which were probably in the bottom half of the SEC if we're being honest)

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Disagree for sure, but most of the rest of that yup... but our fans and admin have ALWAYS been a "what have you done for me lately" mentality. If anything, he has made us ease up on that. If he went 8-4, we would be FAR from calling for his head. That's a fact.

Me either.