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re: Pump the brakes, Texas
Posted on 9/11/23 at 12:58 pm to Hmbre97
Posted on 9/11/23 at 12:58 pm to Hmbre97
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This x1000. I've had the rugged pulled too many times. I'll believe it when I see it.
Kinda where I'm at. Both teams that beat Bama last year didn't make the playoffs. Texas had Bama all but beat last year but still lost 4 other games outside of it.
It was still a big win and Texas fans should absolutely enjoy it. But there's still a lot of season to be played to be thinking about playoffs right now. And you just know Texas and Oklahoma are going to be getting the best shot from every Big 12 team they play. Not that they already didn't but it's extra personal this year.
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Posted on 9/11/23 at 1:02 pm to Alistair
The problem with Texas and Oklahoma playing in the big 12 is that the teams like Texas Tech, OSU, Kansas State, Baylor, ETC. Is that, just like the middle tier of the SEC, those schools can be very difficult to beat especially in their hostile home environment. But when you do beat them your program does not get the bump from winning and if you lose you get ostracized for losing to “Inferior competition”.
And god forbid you should ever lay an egg playing Kansas…. Holy shite, don’t ever do that…
Playing within the SEC will boost both TEXAS and OU in the perception of quality wins, without taking outsized hits in perception for losses.
Marketing is important. The SEC is absolutely the king in that regard.
And god forbid you should ever lay an egg playing Kansas…. Holy shite, don’t ever do that…
Playing within the SEC will boost both TEXAS and OU in the perception of quality wins, without taking outsized hits in perception for losses.
Marketing is important. The SEC is absolutely the king in that regard.
This post was edited on 9/11/23 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 9/11/23 at 1:02 pm to WaterLink
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But there's still a lot of season to be played to be thinking about playoffs right now.
Every Texas fan agrees. Just seems ironic a Gators fan is lecturing us about not taking teams lightly.
Posted on 9/11/23 at 1:25 pm to BevoBucks
Well, we did slow down a bit in the 4th quarter.
Like 12 straight runs (well 9 runs and 3 mercy knees) to run out the last 7 minutes of the game.
Posted on 9/11/23 at 1:27 pm to Alistair
Kansas would get in some sec teams’ arse this season if they played. That’s a good football team
Posted on 9/11/23 at 1:32 pm to Cheese Grits
One of the ESPNU radio guys summed it up nicely when the UT/OU realignment move was announced. He said that in the BIG XII, the only game where either team was guaranteed to line up against Jimmies and Joes every bit as good as them was the Red River Shootout. Other than that one game, neither were likely to face an equal or better roster.
In the SEC, both programs must accept that at a minimum, half of their league games are guaranteed to be as good if not better than whatever product they put on the field. Likely more.
Texas was the better team on Saturday, but I don't think they're prepared to sustain the grind of a full SEC schedule, especially if we expand to 9 league games after 2024.
In the SEC, both programs must accept that at a minimum, half of their league games are guaranteed to be as good if not better than whatever product they put on the field. Likely more.
Texas was the better team on Saturday, but I don't think they're prepared to sustain the grind of a full SEC schedule, especially if we expand to 9 league games after 2024.
Posted on 9/11/23 at 1:40 pm to VoxDawg
I know, we saw how A&M and Missouri struggled in their first years in the SEC coming from the Big XII
This post was edited on 9/11/23 at 1:42 pm
Posted on 9/11/23 at 1:45 pm to Hmbre97
That those frauds in their HS stadium in Columbia, MO represented the East two years in a row thanks to inadequate recruiting for depth by Richt at the end of his tenure still makes my stomach churn.
Posted on 9/11/23 at 1:51 pm to Alistair
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playing Kansas
is better than half the SEC teams.
Posted on 9/11/23 at 1:56 pm to Cheese Grits
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Lesser SEC football schools may not be in the CFP hunt but most will end the season of a power SEC school that should have been. UK before Joker was the poster child of this type of team.
This is every conference. When teams play every year there are lesser teams that beat the big dogs.
Posted on 9/11/23 at 1:58 pm to Boomer Sooner 1890
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This is every conference. When teams play every year there are lesser teams that beat the big dogs.
I do think there is one big difference. Right now we are everyone's super bowl in the big 12. They circle the TX and/or OU game on the calendar.
In the SEC we're just another team. (other than aggie when they play us obviously). That's going to be the big difference. I can't wait to be in this league. Hopefully we'll play our part to keep this the best sports conference in the country.
Posted on 9/11/23 at 2:07 pm to Alistair
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That said, winning a big game against a good team does not a season make and next year you are going to have to go week in and week out against SEC schools all year long
Made my brain hurt trying to make sense of your writing. And I usually hate the English police on here.
Posted on 9/11/23 at 2:19 pm to GatorOnAnIsland
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We looked like a JV
Emphasis on "we"
Posted on 9/12/23 at 2:41 pm to VoxDawg
quote:Today, there is 1 SEC team with a better roster than Texas. Who am I forgetting?
In the SEC, both programs must accept that at a minimum, half of their league games are guaranteed to be as good if not better than whatever product they put on the field. Likely more.
Texas was the better team on Saturday, but I don't think they're prepared to sustain the grind of a full SEC schedule, especially if we expand to 9 league games after 2024.
The NFL draft for Texas next year: QB, TE, OT, WRx2, DLx3/4, LBx1/2, DB.
Texas faced 4 NFL 1st round DL last year, 1 of which played in the SEC.
With a favorable schedule that includes multiple games against FCS schools and Georgia v. A&M, and many others playing once every 12 years, the SEC big 3 or 4, little 10 or 11, is not the gauntlet y'all make it out to be.
Aggy beat Alabama at home in Yr 1 and Mizzou won the SEC-East Yr 1&2. They transitioned ok.
Aggy v. the B12 South, is not much different than the SEC-W. Against the B12 South, Aggy won 40% on the road, 60% at home, and 50% overall. They had losing road records against Texas, OU & TTech (3 of 5).
Texas is noticeably better, even considering this includes the worst stretch in over 120 years of football. Against the B12 South, Texas won 69% on the road, 74% at home, and 65% overall. OU is a neutral site game. Texas has a winning road record against other every B12 South opponent.
Texas was also 4-0 in Lincoln, 3-0 in Boulder & 3-2 in Columbia.
As you noticed, Texas plays well on the road:
Texas ending Alabama's 21 game home winning streak and 57 game regular-season non-conference streak now gets added to ...
Texas ending Nebraska's 47 game home winning streak, and
Texas ending Ohio State's 36 game non-conference home winning streak, and
Texas ending USC's 34 game winning streak.
That's sittin' in some pretty high cotton, don't you think?
The 34-24 score doesn't reflect the beating Texas gave Alabama.
In a few months, a lot of you guys are going to eat crow about Alabama, again. You underestimated the team Texas has, and you're underestimating Alabama & Saban.
Posted on 9/12/23 at 3:03 pm to Shea Vinnerbush
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Being in this league is not about winning a big game and then playing Kansas and Texas Tech and Baylor the rest of the year.
Which is exactly why Texas is leaving the Big 12? Some members on this board are shockingly very slow to comprehend this…
Not really, the only reason Texas and OU joined the SEC has to do with money. They are not loyal to any league or any little brothers ever since they got double crossed by Nebraska, A&M, Colorado, and Mizzou..
They (the administrators at both schools) don't care who they play as long as the money flows.
It is going to be a nice upgrade in competition though and way less boring watching them play in the SEC.
This post was edited on 9/12/23 at 3:09 pm
Posted on 9/12/23 at 3:11 pm to Alistair
I think most of our fanbase/alumni realized that "shite, we have been here before, so we gotta start acting like it" Wyoming is coming in here this week to try to shock the world so the target is on our backs. As far as the SEC schedule next year, it's gonna be pretty brutal, and adding to that having to play Michigan at the big house as well.
With all that being said, next year's team will be even better than this year with all our young talent.
With all that being said, next year's team will be even better than this year with all our young talent.
Posted on 9/12/23 at 3:24 pm to hookem33
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I do think there is one big difference. Right now we are everyone's super bowl in the big 12. They circle the TX and/or OU game on the calendar.
In the SEC we're just another team. (other than aggie when they play us obviously). That's going to be the big difference. I can't wait to be in this league. Hopefully we'll play our part to keep this the best sports conference in the country.
I don't think people in other conferences get how badly the little brothers in the Big 12 won't to beat OU and especially Texas every season. It is like they play out of their minds for 1 game every year, and a lot of those teams have had some good coaching. Baylor, TCU, Kstate, Okie State, Texas Tech, etc have had some good coaching staffs through the years that throw all their chips in for that Texas game...
This post was edited on 9/12/23 at 3:26 pm
Posted on 9/12/23 at 3:24 pm to Alistair
Florida fans posting this doesn’t seem right they think Kansas and Florida are not comparable I am here to tell you this year they are very much so and Kansas would be favored if played right now ….. they have a good qb and a good coach .
This post was edited on 9/12/23 at 3:26 pm
Posted on 9/12/23 at 4:26 pm to Alistair
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Pump the brakes, Texas
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Posted on 9/12/23 at 4:42 pm to VoxDawg
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In the SEC, both programs must accept that at a minimum, half of their league games are guaranteed to be as good if not better than whatever product they put on the field. Likely more.
The problem with that assumption is you ignore the X's and O's. Some of the little brothers in the Big 12 may not have had the high rated Jimmy and Joe, but the dude standing on the sideline coaching them knew how to turn some of the lowly 3 stars into studs. And there was a lot of those type coaches in the Big 12 with a lot of longevity...Look at the records at TCU, Baylor, Okie State, Kstate. You very rarely see those teams get blown out, even if they play decent out of conference teams in Bowl Games it's usually always a dog fight, and sometimes they beat some pretty good teams and the Big 12 has had some good records in bowls..
The NFL is filled with a lot of 3 star nobodies that played at nowhere U and developed into hosses..
This post was edited on 9/12/23 at 4:49 pm
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