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Probably beating a dead horse, but what was Gus/Malzahn thinking?
Posted on 6/14/21 at 1:36 pm
Posted on 6/14/21 at 1:36 pm
You win a title with Cam, which probably 35% of the country could have done with how good he was.
You get to another title game with Nick Marshal...
What’s the reoccurring theme? A run first/super athletic QB and a read option system.
Why not continue that system? You always have a good RB at Auburn and generally a good run blocking OL... why the hell do you try to go to a pro style system with no WR production and QBs with mediocre accuracy?
You get to another title game with Nick Marshal...
What’s the reoccurring theme? A run first/super athletic QB and a read option system.
Why not continue that system? You always have a good RB at Auburn and generally a good run blocking OL... why the hell do you try to go to a pro style system with no WR production and QBs with mediocre accuracy?
This post was edited on 6/14/21 at 1:40 pm
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Posted on 6/14/21 at 1:39 pm to internetdad
The lucky miracles ended. His success ended. /thread
Posted on 6/14/21 at 1:40 pm to internetdad
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and generally a good run blocking OL
That was the beginning of his downfall. He had an OL that couldn't run block or pass protect. The end.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 1:40 pm to internetdad
Always wondered the same. He signed a few guys that fit the mold like Malik Willis but those guys could never crack the lineup.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 1:41 pm to internetdad
You could make the argument that 2017 Auburn with a semi-mobile QB was about as good as 2013 Auburn 
Posted on 6/14/21 at 1:41 pm to internetdad
Gus cares more about being thought a genius on offense than he does winning football games
Think of a socialist college student telling you with tears in his eyes that it just hasn't been tried in its purest form yet and that you have to believe him, it'll work, he promises
That's Gus Malzahn and his offense
Think of a socialist college student telling you with tears in his eyes that it just hasn't been tried in its purest form yet and that you have to believe him, it'll work, he promises
That's Gus Malzahn and his offense
Posted on 6/14/21 at 1:42 pm to MrAUTigers
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That was the beginning of his downfall. He had an OL that couldn't run block or pass protect. The end.
If you can't get 4 yards a pop on the dive play in that system then your entire offensive play tree gets wrecked. You can still be effective, but that system is only dominant when defenses have to overload the box to stop the staple play. When that happens AND you have a mobile QB then it's terrifying.
Auburn had road grading OLs in 2010 and 2013.
This post was edited on 6/14/21 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 6/14/21 at 1:45 pm to SummerOfGeorge
I know the line play went way down for sure, but at least a more mobile QB can alleviate some of that with option plays out of shotgun. Seems like Gus thought he could imitate what Bama was doing, but our receivers could produce and block on the edges.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 1:45 pm to internetdad
Gus' biggest problem is that he didn't evolve. He is very stubborn and narrow-minded. If it worked, it was a thing of beauty. If it didn't work, he couldn't make any adjustments that would help.
He seems like good people. I wish him well moving forward. I hope he learned from his experience at Auburn. You must constantly evolve in the game of football or you are going backwards.
He seems like good people. I wish him well moving forward. I hope he learned from his experience at Auburn. You must constantly evolve in the game of football or you are going backwards.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 1:46 pm to internetdad
Rules changed and he couldn’t go as fast anymore. Umpires stand over the ball now. Plus, he couldn’t recruit O-linemen or keep an Oline coach for any consistency. He changed the SEC but wouldn’t keep adapting.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 1:47 pm to MrAUTigers
Well In his defense I think he was ahead of the game and instead of sticking with what worked, he actually went backwards.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 1:47 pm to MrAUTigers
Yep - agree with both of you. He didn't ever seem to evolve things, or his answers to evolving were wrong and didn't work.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 1:49 pm to internetdad
I think he changed because that style of offense doesn’t carry over into the Pro Style system. Guys want a shot at the NFL and college is just a stepping stone. Yes, Cam could do it but he’s the exception, not the rule.
To recruit the top QB’s, which you have to do in order to win even at the college level, guys want a system that will carry them to the next level. Just my two cents.
To recruit the top QB’s, which you have to do in order to win even at the college level, guys want a system that will carry them to the next level. Just my two cents.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 1:49 pm to internetdad
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Well In his defense I think he was ahead of the game and instead of sticking with what worked, he actually went backwards.
what worked for him was the HUNH. Rule changes took that away from him. He would just wear down D's for three quarters and own the fourth.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 1:50 pm to MrAUTigers
That is true, I forgot about rule changes and such.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 1:53 pm to MrAUTigers
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what worked for him was the HUNH. Rule changes took that away from him. He would just wear down D's for three quarters and own the fourth.
Yea, he lost both the tempo AND the big guys who leaned on defenses and then pummeled them late.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 1:54 pm to internetdad
When the playoffs expand Gus is going on a revenge tour and it starts in Alabama.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 1:55 pm to SadUCFKnight
Lmaoooo so you admit y’all can’t get into the top 4?
Posted on 6/14/21 at 1:55 pm to SadUCFKnight
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When the playoffs expand Gus is going on a revenge tour and it starts in Alabama.
Try and beat Tulsa first
Posted on 6/14/21 at 1:55 pm to SadUCFKnight
This frickin guy^^ 
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