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re: Pre 1970 was the Sugar Bowl a lot less prestigious?

Posted on 12/7/15 at 7:58 am to
Posted by VVega
Alabama
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Posted on 12/7/15 at 7:58 am to
You are clearly and transparently trolling an ole miss program that is historically and currently your better... And trying to do so on an SEC board by bashing the biggest historical SEC bowl game.

frick you Faggie
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
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Posted on 12/7/15 at 8:01 am to
You are either very young or just not very bright
Posted by VVega
Alabama
Member since Sep 2013
5770 posts
Posted on 12/7/15 at 8:03 am to
No. You are probably less educated, with less aptitude and fewer years on this earth than me. I call a spade a spade. Troll.
Posted by Mizz-SEC
Inbred Huntin' In The SEC
Member since Jun 2013
19234 posts
Posted on 12/7/15 at 8:04 am to
quote:

This guy is completely wrong btw. The Mizz fan gave a pecking order that is just false.


Not wrong.

40-50 years ago the pecking order in prestige was Rose, Orange, Cotton and Sugar.

You could make a case to flip the last two, but certainly not the first two.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32220 posts
Posted on 12/7/15 at 8:06 am to
I don't know about all that but from a matter of trivia, the 1961 Sugar Bowl with Jake Gibbs rolling left to score a winning touchdown against Rice is my very first recollection of college football. I was but a tyke but still remember it.
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
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Posted on 12/7/15 at 8:06 am to
I'm definitely more educated with higher degrees, definitely much older than you, and have more wisdom.


Quit being a whiny little girl, you are the idiot that failed to completely read the OP before posting.
Posted by VVega
Alabama
Member since Sep 2013
5770 posts
Posted on 12/7/15 at 8:06 am to
Very wrong. But I'm done arguing with big 12 trolls today.

You guys have fun in your imaginary bowl circle jerk.
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 12/7/15 at 8:07 am to
Sarge, see ya in Nashville
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
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Posted on 12/7/15 at 8:08 am to
Not sure what your trying to get at.Sugar Bowl has been prestigious since its inception in the mid-30's. A&M's only NC came in a year they won the Sugar Bowl.

Ole Miss was one of the best teams in the country from 1955 through 1970, save a clinker or two. Sugar was as good if not better than the Cotton Bowl.

Surely you aren't insinuating a conference (SWC) that dissolved was better than the SEC year in and year out?
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
12730 posts
Posted on 12/7/15 at 8:09 am to
quote:

Yes. Back in the day the prestige order was Rose, Orange, Cotton, then Sugar.

The Fiesta became a big deal in the 80's and eventually surpassed them all.

The Cotton was relegated to the bottom until Jerry Jones made it his mission to put it back on the map.


You are correct about everything except the fiesta bowl. Yes it is the youngest of the big time bowls, but it's still nowhere as near prestigious as the rose bowl, and people only give a shite when it's hosting a national title game.

one of the unintended consequences of the bcs was the downfall of the major bowl games besides the rose bowl and whatever bowl was hosting a national title. In the 80s and 90s, the orange bowl was always a huge game as was the rose, and the sugar and fiesta would always be hosting top 10 match ups. The problem is that the #1 and 2 teams would usually not be playing each other. shite I remember the citrus bowl would usually feature a top 10 matchup (big 10 #2 vs sec #2). The bcs absolutely destroyed the orange bowl, it has featured some god awful match ups outside of the bcsncg. It is good to see the cotton bowl regaining steam, but to say the fiesta bowl has more prestige than any other bowl is silly. It's just the newest to the game.
Posted by Mizz-SEC
Inbred Huntin' In The SEC
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Posted on 12/7/15 at 8:11 am to

Yeah I guess I missed that part where the Sugar Bowl was anointed "The Granddaddy Of Them All".

You know, there's a whole world outside the borders of the Confederacy.
Posted by VVega
Alabama
Member since Sep 2013
5770 posts
Posted on 12/7/15 at 8:11 am to
Oh you are?

At work, I ask people not to call me Dr. even though they should.

AND I remember what you are asking about and answered your troll question. You flame out at me like a bitch when you don't like the answer. Give me a fricking break.

Is it really that hard for you Aggies to accept that regardless of where people are from, that they can be just as good, and in many cases (such as this one) much better than you?
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32220 posts
Posted on 12/7/15 at 8:12 am to
I agree I59. Back in the day, it's was The Rose Bowl (granddaddy of them all), Sugar and Orange, somewhat equal, then the Cotton. Fiesta came along much later and climbed to being somewhat equal to Sugar and Orange.
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 12/7/15 at 8:14 am to
Old Sarge's trolling threads generally don't make any sense, as this one demonstrates.
Posted by Mizz-SEC
Inbred Huntin' In The SEC
Member since Jun 2013
19234 posts
Posted on 12/7/15 at 8:15 am to

The Fiesta surpassed them only in their ability to create a match-up without conference tie-ins.

That ability took the shine off the original Big Four bowls a little.
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
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Posted on 12/7/15 at 8:15 am to
The Cotton was bigger than the Sugar until Arkansas left the SWC. The Cotton was a CBS stand alone game. The Sugar always kept moving time slots.
Posted by VVega
Alabama
Member since Sep 2013
5770 posts
Posted on 12/7/15 at 8:15 am to
This is the actual way things were.
Posted by Bernie Moore
Member since May 2010
1859 posts
Posted on 12/7/15 at 8:17 am to
SWC was a weak conference in the 60s thru 80s.
Aggie,show us your record vs SEC teams during that era.
Same with Arkansas.
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55229 posts
Posted on 12/7/15 at 8:18 am to

quote:

AND I remember what you are asking about and answered your troll question. You flame out at me like a bitch when you don't like the answer. Give me a fricking break.



quote:

Sugar bowl was a huge deal in the 70s, 80s, 90s, and was still a pretty big deal even in the 00s.




No you didn't, I was asking about pre 1970. Your reply to the OP is above
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 12/7/15 at 8:19 am to
That wasn't the topic, the topic is, was the Sugar bowl less significant pre 1970
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