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re: Players skipping bowls could cost their coach bonus money
Posted on 12/21/18 at 11:57 am to Evolved Simian
Posted on 12/21/18 at 11:57 am to Evolved Simian
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Jaylon Smith didn't declare for the NFL until AFTER he blew out his knee.
He’s also said he’d make the same decision again even knowing what he knows now. Some people feel loyalty to their team over their own self interests. Some don’t feel that way is what it boils down to.
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Posted on 12/21/18 at 12:05 pm to olemissfan26
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Maybe add transfers too? IDK I just think bowl games should be a true bonus. It would be cool to see some of these transfers get some game experience after sitting a year.
Maybe they should just remove bowl games as counting in teams' W/L record. I think if people are going to view them as meaningless exhibitions then they should be treated as such as well
Posted on 12/21/18 at 1:24 pm to momentoftruth87
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Good thing they got a free education from universities that most would love to get the opportunity to attend. Not to mention the contacts that they make as a student athlete playing football beyond high school.
Jimbo Fisher is gauranteed $75 million if he can no longer coach.
The athlete is gauranteed dick if he can no longer play.
But let's cry about the coach missing out on a bonus to his millions a year he already gets.
Posted on 12/21/18 at 2:47 pm to OlGrandad
It doesn't seem that the NFL values bowl performances so it makes sense that the players wouldn't, either. Why should they risk their careers if it doesn't benefit them to do so?
If colleges want their stars to play in the bowl games, they should lobby the NFL to penalize players for skipping out. Otherwise there won't be any incentive at all to play unless it's a playoff game or an individual record is at stake.
If colleges want their stars to play in the bowl games, they should lobby the NFL to penalize players for skipping out. Otherwise there won't be any incentive at all to play unless it's a playoff game or an individual record is at stake.
Posted on 12/21/18 at 4:02 pm to OlGrandad
Lettuce be honest - bowl games don't matter if they aren't part of the playoff.
This post was edited on 12/21/18 at 4:03 pm
Posted on 12/21/18 at 4:32 pm to Korin
Ed Zackery.....there is only 2 games that mean a dayum thing and they're the playoff games. If I were a 1st or 2nd rounder then I would cut and run as well. Don't risk a million on the F Belk Bowl.
Posted on 12/21/18 at 5:03 pm to OlGrandad
Players that signed a contract to play football for a full ride scholarship should play in all games if they are healthy enough to do so. If they fail to do so, they should pay back the full amount of the scholarship for that year. Including travel, medical, and equipment expenses. These are some ungrateful, entitled snowflakes. Just my dumb ole opinion.
Posted on 12/21/18 at 5:44 pm to crimsonuatide
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Just my dumb ole opinion.
Correct
Posted on 12/21/18 at 5:47 pm to lsufball19
Why would any college kid care about their coaches money
Posted on 12/21/18 at 5:48 pm to AggieDub14
I think it's pretty cool actually.
Posted on 12/21/18 at 5:55 pm to UTprideofTX
I am old at 68 so like Lt Col Frank Slade "I have been around you know" I believe the day will come that you will see a Bama player(s) not play in a Bowl but only if it's not a playoff game. The amount of money for a 1st rounder is just too much risk for someone to take in a meaningless Bowl game. If not one of these two playoff games then the rest of the games are meaningless.
Posted on 12/21/18 at 6:21 pm to JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
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meaningless Bowl game
What else is meaningless? How about the last four games of the season when your team is 4-4? How about the last nine games of the season when your team is 1-3? How about your entire third year when some agent tells you that you are "a first round draft pick - lock" based on your first two years of play? If the fans don't hold the players in contempt for their derelictions what is to stop an entire team from refusing to play a bowl game?
Players get a full scholarship and a lot more...
- Housing of a luxurious nature, plus;
- Coaching - publicity - exposure - training in facilities that are the best in the world with full time trainers, medical personnel monitoring their physical and mental development, plus;
- Full meal ticket of the most fabulous food, plus;
- All the tutoring you need ... plus;
- Medical care out of this world... plus;
- Hot and cold running coeds... plus;
- Low interest dodge chargers... plus;
- Respect and recognition across the campus, plus;
- Cush summer jobs if needed, plus;
- A lifetime of memories, congratulations and esteem from people you have never met.
That is a lot of monetary compensation for players, most of whom will not be NFL.
Given all that, if a player will not finish the season, he should return the last year's rent in full, including every penny prorated for coaching, publicity, etc. The future draft pick is going to make millions off of what the school did for him including coaching, publicity, opportunity, financial rewards, housing, etc. So now you think that player is justified saying "screw the school" and to heck for what the school did for him? How about he go work for a living after high school instead... how would that work out?
Bowl games did not count for the polls until 1973 or so. But players played anyway ... Joe Namath quarterback sneak 4 times against Texas on the goal line in the Orange bowl, scoring three times but called back by Texas mafia refs comes to mind. Somehow he honored his duty on knees that really were already worn out.
Somewhere we apparently lost the ethics our generation was supposed to have stood for. But maybe it was only half a generation that understood the basics of commitment and duty ... and the other half didn't care back then and thinks it is ok that others don't do their's now. Well, I don't think that way. I'm sorry others do.
This post was edited on 12/21/18 at 7:03 pm
Posted on 12/21/18 at 8:57 pm to momentoftruth87
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If they can't survive in a college bowl game how will they fare in the NFL?
You really this dumb? They have guaranteed money on contract if they're good enough. And you want them to risk that for an exhibition game. You dumb, for real.
Posted on 12/21/18 at 8:59 pm to Jacknola
It's called capitalism. Funny how we want everything as capitalist as possible, except for sports where we want things completely socialist. Cognitive dissonance.
Posted on 12/21/18 at 9:00 pm to Jacknola
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Bowl games did not count for the polls until 1973 or so.
Well that's not true.
Posted on 12/21/18 at 9:21 pm to Korin
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That’s just not true
Yes it is...UPI coaches poll began including bowl games in final poll in 1974 season. AP began taking final poll after bowl games in about 1968 season. Before that, bowl games were regarded as not part of the season but as a reward for the season and NC was decided by poll before the bowls.
Re capitalism vs socialism. That is the most self serving gen X crap i’ve read lately, which is saying a lot. A contract and your word is valid in capitalism, you do not have the right to commit then back out half way.
Plenty of people today think lying cheating welshing, undermining, swindling, going back on your word, double-dealing and dealing in bad faith is just good business. It isn't and you should be ashamed encouraging and applauding it. That tells me as much about you as it does about those players.
This post was edited on 12/21/18 at 9:32 pm
Posted on 12/21/18 at 9:31 pm to Jacknola
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Yes it is...UPI coaches poll began including bowl games in final poll in 1974 season. AP began taking final poll after bowl games in about 1967. Before that bowl games were regarded as not part of the season but as a reward for the season and NC was decided by poll before the bowls.
Still not true. The FWAA started in 1954 and always waited until after the bowls.
Also 1968 =/= 1973. Busted.
This post was edited on 12/21/18 at 9:33 pm
Posted on 12/21/18 at 9:41 pm to Jacknola
You hit the nail on the head. This trend of declaring oneself above playing in what you perceive as a meaningless game at the end of the season will only GROW to include what you perceive to be meaningless games DURING the season. These players are setting a bad trend for the sport of college football itself which ultimately will harm EVERYONE who plays the game. Perhaps the NFL can be coerced into penalizing, salary-wise, those who choose this approach. Miss the bowl by sitting out, a million dollars comes out of your projected offer. Let this be part of their choice when deciding to play or not.
Posted on 12/21/18 at 9:42 pm to Paul Maul number 37
Good lord the overreaction
Posted on 12/21/18 at 9:58 pm to AggieDub14
quote:Myles Garret took half a season off
they played for A&M, they'd be playing. Never once had a player sit out. It just means more.
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