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re: PFF's all american defensive team.....
Posted on 12/1/22 at 8:50 am to SummerOfGeorge
Posted on 12/1/22 at 8:50 am to SummerOfGeorge
Kool-Aid was fantastic this season.
477 coverage snaps
59.0 QB Rating Against
71 targets
34 receptions (47.9%)
310 yards (4.37 yards per target)
13 pass break ups
21 forced incompletions
2 missed tackles
477 coverage snaps
59.0 QB Rating Against
71 targets
34 receptions (47.9%)
310 yards (4.37 yards per target)
13 pass break ups
21 forced incompletions
2 missed tackles
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Posted on 12/1/22 at 8:51 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Why would you let the same safety keep getting burned by the same WR you might ask?????? Well, that's one of the reasons everyone wants our DC to be fired.
Saban’s fault IMO
Posted on 12/1/22 at 8:52 am to diddlydawg7
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Saban’s fault IMO
He certainly ain't exempt from blame
Posted on 12/1/22 at 8:54 am to koreandawg
Love their all true freshman team though
PFF All True Freshman Team
Offense
QB E.J. Warner, Temple
RB Quinshon Judkins, Ole Miss
RB Jaydn Ott, California
WR Antonio Williams, Clemson
WR Tetairoa McMillan, Arizona
WR Barion Brown, Kentucky
TE Justin Joly, UConn
LT Kelvin Banks Jr., Texas
LG Tyler Booker, Alabama
C Van Wells, Colorado
RG Jonah Savaiinaea, Arizona
RT Blake Miller, Clemson
Defense
DI Mason Graham, Michigan
DI Deone Walker, Kentucky
ED Mykel Williams, Georgia
ED Gabe Jacas, Illinois
LB Harold Perkins, LSU
LB Abdul Carter, Penn State
CB Benjamin Morrison, Notre Dame
CB Will Johnson, Michigan
S Malaki Starks, Georgia
S A.J. Haulcy, New Mexico
FLEX D Nick Emmanwori, South Carolina
Special teams
RS Jaylin Lucas, Indiana
K Dominic Zvada, Arkansas State
P Brett Thorson, Georgia
PFF All True Freshman Team
Offense
QB E.J. Warner, Temple
RB Quinshon Judkins, Ole Miss
RB Jaydn Ott, California
WR Antonio Williams, Clemson
WR Tetairoa McMillan, Arizona
WR Barion Brown, Kentucky
TE Justin Joly, UConn
LT Kelvin Banks Jr., Texas
LG Tyler Booker, Alabama
C Van Wells, Colorado
RG Jonah Savaiinaea, Arizona
RT Blake Miller, Clemson
Defense
DI Mason Graham, Michigan
DI Deone Walker, Kentucky
ED Mykel Williams, Georgia
ED Gabe Jacas, Illinois
LB Harold Perkins, LSU
LB Abdul Carter, Penn State
CB Benjamin Morrison, Notre Dame
CB Will Johnson, Michigan
S Malaki Starks, Georgia
S A.J. Haulcy, New Mexico
FLEX D Nick Emmanwori, South Carolina
Special teams
RS Jaylin Lucas, Indiana
K Dominic Zvada, Arkansas State
P Brett Thorson, Georgia
Posted on 12/1/22 at 8:55 am to SummerOfGeorge
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13 pass break ups
That is extremely impressive
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21 forced incompletions
I'm not sure what that is. Lol
Posted on 12/1/22 at 8:56 am to SummerOfGeorge
we’ve started DBs a lot worse than Hellams since 2016 and we still hold it together.
Fireable offense IMO. Golding can be interim. If y’all beat Kansas St in the bowl game i say promote him.
Fireable offense IMO. Golding can be interim. If y’all beat Kansas St in the bowl game i say promote him.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 8:56 am to meansonny
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I'm not sure what that is. Lol
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Forced incompletion percentage, which takes all forced incompletions (pass breakups, interceptions, tight coverage) and divides them by total targets
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Forced incompletion percentage adds context to such figures and provides a clearer picture as to which cornerbacks are making plays on the ball and creating incompletions rather than benefitting from fortunate circumstances such as a dropped pass or inaccurate throw.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 8:57 am to LouisvilleKat
Is thorson considered a freshman? Isn’t he like 27?
Posted on 12/1/22 at 8:58 am to diddlydawg7
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we’ve started DBs a lot worse than Hellams since 2016 and we still hold it together.
Hellams isn't a bad DB (he isn't great, but he's not bad). He's a horrid one on one matchup for a WR who runs a 4.35 in open space.
Braswell/Anderson/Turner aren't bad OLBs. They're bad as DL making up 3 of the 4 guys in the front 4 in a run down, though.
Etc
Etc
Etc
2022 Alabama Football
This post was edited on 12/1/22 at 9:00 am
Posted on 12/1/22 at 9:02 am to SummerOfGeorge
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I'm not sure what that is. Lol
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Forced incompletion percentage, which takes all forced incompletions (pass breakups, interceptions, tight coverage) and divides them by total targets
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Forced incompletion percentage adds context to such figures and provides a clearer picture as to which cornerbacks are making plays on the ball and creating incompletions rather than benefitting from fortunate circumstances such as a dropped pass or inaccurate throw.
Tight coverage is a throw away term.
Howevwr, 13 PBUs is a great year for any DB.
I will say that a boundary DB who can force the receiver to the sideline to shrink the QBs window (whether the ball is thrown or not) should be a factor.
That is the difference between "an indefensible catch" and incompletion a lot of times. And it starts at the first 5 yards off the LOS.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 9:03 am to meansonny
Yea it's definitely a murky stat. Probably much more murky in college compared to the NFL where they have all sorts of advanced tech stuff that can give data on everything as opposed to some 21 year old charting games at 11 pm.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 9:11 am to SummerOfGeorge
That’s not just advanced stats either.
For basketball games, UGA and ESPN/SECN have only one guy to collect every stat and update it live so it can feed to the computers in the control room running the broadcast. A lot of mistakes happen
For basketball games, UGA and ESPN/SECN have only one guy to collect every stat and update it live so it can feed to the computers in the control room running the broadcast. A lot of mistakes happen
Posted on 12/1/22 at 9:15 am to ReversePiggie
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Lol at Carter not being on the list.
He only played 263 snaps all season over 9 games. Thats only 29 snaps a game in the games he did even play in. I mean that's a pretty good reason to leave someone off an A.A. list. I'm sure they had minimums in terms of snaps to get on the list there.
He was dominant for sure but just didnt play much at all.
This post was edited on 12/1/22 at 9:16 am
Posted on 12/1/22 at 9:17 am to diddlydawg7
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That’s not just advanced stats either.
For basketball games, UGA and ESPN/SECN have only one guy to collect every stat and update it live so it can feed to the computers in the control room running the broadcast. A lot of mistakes happen
Yep - especially on all that secondary stuff. It's why a lot of schools pay for their own analytics guys (or 3rd parties) to chart their games live and give them independent stats. I know Oats does that and a lot of times he'll read from his little print out sheet he gets immediately after games and the stats don't match the official ones (stuff like turnovers/blocks/etc), and it is precisely because of what you said.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 9:18 am to koreandawg
I mean they didnt have Kroeger as the first team all sec Kicker, so that instantly discredits them
Posted on 12/1/22 at 9:19 am to skrayper
According to PFF Saban must have gotten an F
They are loaded with the best players yet they couldn’t do shite
They are loaded with the best players yet they couldn’t do shite
Posted on 12/1/22 at 9:20 am to lsupride87
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According to PFF Saban must have gotten an F
They are loaded with the best players yet they couldn’t do shite
The coaching staff definitely gets an F. We had some holes, but a good staff would have hidden them and played to our strengths. We didn't. On either side of the ball. Not to mention those areas with good but not great players mostly were upperclassmen, which should help compensate for perhaps not being elite physically.
Head Coach/Coordinators certainly get a failing grade for this past season.
This post was edited on 12/1/22 at 9:22 am
Posted on 12/1/22 at 9:20 am to koreandawg
Georgia fans and finding things to feel slighted about, you can't name a better duo.
The sooner you guys ignore PFF grades the better off you'll be.
The sooner you guys ignore PFF grades the better off you'll be.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 9:27 am to SummerOfGeorge
how many more years similar to this would you tolerate before you start to support sending Saban to the butterfly farm?
Posted on 12/1/22 at 9:31 am to diddlydawg7
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how many more years similar to this would you tolerate before you start to support sending Saban to the butterfly farm?
If he retained the coordinators (or hired obvious retreads to replace them ala Derek Dooley as OC and/or Charles Kelly as DC) then I'd be pretty rattled moving forward. If he makes sensible coordinator hires then I'm pretty willing to accept the fact that the culture shite just is what it is, only Kirby is going to be able to recapture the culture thing we had from 2009-2017, so there isn't really any reasonable reason to act like anyone else could come in and get that back so it's not worth losing our minds over.
That is kind of what I expect. New coordinators, better coached team but still not the same level of robot/machine that we were before. Just another of the really, really good teams.
The coordinator thing, especially on offense (because defense is going to be whatever the hell he wants it to be), will determine stuff moving forward. It's hard to overstate how bad BoB was at just basic game management and play calling - especially this season. We lost 2 games (and almost lost others) almost entirely due to stuff at the margins that was entirely due to coaching.
This post was edited on 12/1/22 at 9:34 am
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