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PFF's all american defensive team.....
Posted on 12/1/22 at 8:19 am
Posted on 12/1/22 at 8:19 am
Something seems to be off here. 
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Posted on 12/1/22 at 8:24 am to koreandawg
I mean their score is their score right? As far as I know the scores are based off of them watching that specific player every play and grading their performance on each one. Somehow I doubt anyone complaining about their guy not being on the team even watched every play their guy made, much less guys on other teams.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 8:24 am to koreandawg
Lol at Carter not being on the list.
No Drew Sanders either.
No Drew Sanders either.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 8:26 am to koreandawg
Not opening the link. If Will Anderson is on it, list is crap. The dude disappeared in every big game this year and most of last year. I hope he has a long and successful NFL career, but I ain’t going to miss him. He’s a stat monster but not a gamer.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 8:26 am to PeleofAnalytics
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I mean their score is their score right?
Sure... and by their scoring system Carter should be at the top of the list.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 8:26 am to ReversePiggie
Didn’t Carter miss like 6 weeks?
Agree on Drew Sanders though
Agree on Drew Sanders though
Posted on 12/1/22 at 8:29 am to bamabenny
2.5 games
Posted on 12/1/22 at 8:30 am to PeleofAnalytics
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I mean their score is their score right? As far as I know the scores are based off of them watching that specific player every play and grading their performance on each one. Somehow I doubt anyone complaining about their guy not being on the team even watched every play their guy made, much less guys on other teams.
I get all of that.
Just funny that the best D in the conference doesn't have one player on it.
Another team has three.
The reason so many people think that D hasn't played up to their standard is mainly due to secondary issues. Two of three players on their list are in the secondary.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 8:31 am to PeleofAnalytics
quote:This just seems like an impossible task to perform by humans for every play, for every player, and for every game
I mean their score is their score right? As far as I know the scores are based off of them watching that specific player every play and grading their performance on each one.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 8:32 am to ReversePiggie
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Sure... and by their scoring system Carter should be at the top of the list.
So you got the game tape of every game that Carter was in this year and the guy who beat him out and watched every single play of the season for both? You have an impressive amount of free time.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 8:32 am to PeleofAnalytics
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I mean their score is their score right? As far as I know the scores are based off of them watching that specific player every play and grading their performance on each one. Somehow I doubt anyone complaining about their guy not being on the team even watched every play their guy made, much less guys on other teams.
According to a PFF tweet this month Jalen Carter of Georgia is the highest PFF graded defensive player in the nation..yet not on the team. So I don’t think this is based on their own scoring model.
Jalen Carter - PFF
This post was edited on 12/1/22 at 8:33 am
Posted on 12/1/22 at 8:33 am to koreandawg
All-SEC PFF Teams:
FIRST TEAM
Offense
QB Bryce Young, Alabama
RB Quinshon Judkins, Ole Miss
RB Jahmyr Gibbs, Alabama
WR Jalin Hyatt, Tennessee
WR Juice Wells, South Carolina
WR Dominic Lovett, Missouri
TE Brock Bowers, Georgia
LT Broderick Jones, Georgia
LG Ethan White, Florida
C Ricky Stromberg, Arkansas
RG O'Cyrus Torrence, Florida
RT Dalton Wagner, Arkansas
Defense
DI Jalen Carter, Georgia
DI Mekhi Wingo, LSU
ED Will Anderson Jr., Alabama
ED BJ Ojulari, LSU
LB Ty'Ron Hopper, Missouri
LB Drew Sanders, Arkansas
CB Kool-Aid McKinstry, Alabama
CB Emmanuel Forbes, Mississippi State
S Antonio Johnson, Texas A&M
S Brian Branch, Alabama
FLEX D Javon Bullard, Georgia
Special teams
RS Lideatrick Griffin, Mississippi State
K Will Reichard, Alabama
P Nik Constantinou, Texas A&M
SECOND TEAM
Offense
QB Hendon Hooker, Tennessee
RB Raheim Sanders, Arkansas
RB Devon Achane, Texas A&M
WR Moose Muhammad III, Texas A&M
WR Jonathan Mingo, Ole Miss
WR Will Sheppard, Vanderbilt
TE Darnell Washington, Georgia
LT Javon Foster, Missouri
LG Javion Cohen, Alabama
C Sedrick Van Pran, Georgia
RG Beaux Limmer, Arkansas
RT Darnell Wright, Tennessee
Defense
DI Byron Young, Alabama
DI Deone Walker, Kentucky
ED Isaiah McGuire, Missouri
ED Princely Umanmielen, Florida
LB Henry To'oTo'o, Alabama
LB Jamon Dumas-Johnson, Georgia
CB D.J. James, Auburn
CB Keidron Smith, Kentucky
S CJ Taylor, Vanderbilt
S DeMarcco Hellams, Alabama
FLEX D AJ Finley, Ole Miss
Special teams
RS Kool-Aid McKinstry, Alabama
K Jack Podlesny, Georgia
P Kai Kroeger, South Carolina
THIRD TEAM
Offense
QB Jayden Daniels, LSU
RB Tank Bigsby, Auburn
RB Zach Evans, Ole Miss
WR Ricky Pearsall, Florida
WR Malik Nabers, LSU
WR Malik Heath, Ole Miss
TE Jaheim Bell, South Carolina
LT Tyler Steen, Alabama
LG Brady Latham, Arkansas
C LaQuinston Sharp, Mississippi State
RG Emil Ekiyor Jr., Alabama
RT JC Latham, Alabama
Defense
DI Tonka Hemingway, South Carolina
DI Jaquelin Roy, LSU
ED Derick Hall, Auburn
ED Dallas Turner, Alabama
LB Harold Perkins, LSU
LB Troy Brown, Ole Miss
CB Ennis Rakestraw Jr., Missouri
CB Dwight McGlothern, Arkansas
S Jordan Battle, Alabama
S Malaki Starks, Georgia
FLEX D Daylan Carnell, Missouri
Special teams
RS Devon Achane, Texas A&M
K Harrison Mevis, Missouri
P Jeremy Crawshaw, Florida
FIRST TEAM
Offense
QB Bryce Young, Alabama
RB Quinshon Judkins, Ole Miss
RB Jahmyr Gibbs, Alabama
WR Jalin Hyatt, Tennessee
WR Juice Wells, South Carolina
WR Dominic Lovett, Missouri
TE Brock Bowers, Georgia
LT Broderick Jones, Georgia
LG Ethan White, Florida
C Ricky Stromberg, Arkansas
RG O'Cyrus Torrence, Florida
RT Dalton Wagner, Arkansas
Defense
DI Jalen Carter, Georgia
DI Mekhi Wingo, LSU
ED Will Anderson Jr., Alabama
ED BJ Ojulari, LSU
LB Ty'Ron Hopper, Missouri
LB Drew Sanders, Arkansas
CB Kool-Aid McKinstry, Alabama
CB Emmanuel Forbes, Mississippi State
S Antonio Johnson, Texas A&M
S Brian Branch, Alabama
FLEX D Javon Bullard, Georgia
Special teams
RS Lideatrick Griffin, Mississippi State
K Will Reichard, Alabama
P Nik Constantinou, Texas A&M
SECOND TEAM
Offense
QB Hendon Hooker, Tennessee
RB Raheim Sanders, Arkansas
RB Devon Achane, Texas A&M
WR Moose Muhammad III, Texas A&M
WR Jonathan Mingo, Ole Miss
WR Will Sheppard, Vanderbilt
TE Darnell Washington, Georgia
LT Javon Foster, Missouri
LG Javion Cohen, Alabama
C Sedrick Van Pran, Georgia
RG Beaux Limmer, Arkansas
RT Darnell Wright, Tennessee
Defense
DI Byron Young, Alabama
DI Deone Walker, Kentucky
ED Isaiah McGuire, Missouri
ED Princely Umanmielen, Florida
LB Henry To'oTo'o, Alabama
LB Jamon Dumas-Johnson, Georgia
CB D.J. James, Auburn
CB Keidron Smith, Kentucky
S CJ Taylor, Vanderbilt
S DeMarcco Hellams, Alabama
FLEX D AJ Finley, Ole Miss
Special teams
RS Kool-Aid McKinstry, Alabama
K Jack Podlesny, Georgia
P Kai Kroeger, South Carolina
THIRD TEAM
Offense
QB Jayden Daniels, LSU
RB Tank Bigsby, Auburn
RB Zach Evans, Ole Miss
WR Ricky Pearsall, Florida
WR Malik Nabers, LSU
WR Malik Heath, Ole Miss
TE Jaheim Bell, South Carolina
LT Tyler Steen, Alabama
LG Brady Latham, Arkansas
C LaQuinston Sharp, Mississippi State
RG Emil Ekiyor Jr., Alabama
RT JC Latham, Alabama
Defense
DI Tonka Hemingway, South Carolina
DI Jaquelin Roy, LSU
ED Derick Hall, Auburn
ED Dallas Turner, Alabama
LB Harold Perkins, LSU
LB Troy Brown, Ole Miss
CB Ennis Rakestraw Jr., Missouri
CB Dwight McGlothern, Arkansas
S Jordan Battle, Alabama
S Malaki Starks, Georgia
FLEX D Daylan Carnell, Missouri
Special teams
RS Devon Achane, Texas A&M
K Harrison Mevis, Missouri
P Jeremy Crawshaw, Florida
Posted on 12/1/22 at 8:33 am to koreandawg
Where tf is Amercia?
Posted on 12/1/22 at 8:35 am to koreandawg
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Just funny that the best D in the conference doesn't have one player on it.
If you have a team with 11 "A" players on it and a team with 3 "A+" players on it scattered with some "Bs and Cs" for the other 8, that is what happens. Of course the first team is the best team. The first team obviously is going to average out better than the second.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 8:36 am to Dawgfanman
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According to a PFF tweet this month Jalen Carter of Georgia is the highest PFF graded defensive player in the nation..yet not on the team. So I don’t think this is based on their own scoring model.
Right now they have him on their second team All-America defense.
Too much of it is behind a paywall to really see details on why Jalen isn't first team. No clue honestly.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 8:38 am to PeleofAnalytics
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If you have a team with 11 "A" players on it and a team with 3 "A+" players on it scattered with some "Bs and Cs" for the other 8, that is what happens. Of course the first team is the best team. The first team obviously is going to average out better than the second.
I mean, 50 plus points to Tennessee and wide open WRs all day. How bad are those other two to three guys in the secondary if the other two are A plus?
Posted on 12/1/22 at 8:38 am to skrayper
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Right now they have him on their second team All-America defense. Too much of it is behind a paywall to really see details on why Jalen isn't first team. No clue honestly
Doesn’t really matter. I wouldn’t put him first this year either due to the time missed for injury. When healthy he’s very impactful and he seems healthy now.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 8:45 am to CatBBN
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This just seems like an impossible task to perform by humans for every play, for every player, and for every game
That is what these guys do. They watch the coaches tape (or some copy where they can actually see the players instead of where the ball is) and grade them out. The actual game play time during the 3 hours broadcast is not that much. It's like 15-20 minutes in NFL games. So about 7-10 minutes for a player's actual action per game. You can get a player's game performance done in maybe half an hour. Not sure what kind of staff these guys have but it is very possible.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 8:47 am to koreandawg
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50 plus points to Tennessee and wide open WRs all day. How bad are those other two to three guys in the secondary if the other two are A plus?
75% of those wide open receivers all day was Jalin Hyatt against DeMarco Hellams.
Kool-Aid vs Tennesee : 3 targets, 1 catch, 27 yds, 1 pass break up, 67.4 QB Rating Against
Brian Branch vs Tennessee : 5 targets, 2 catches, 14 yards, 87.5 QB Rating Against
Terrion Arnold/DeMarcco Hellams vs Tennessee : 12 targets, 9 catches, 188 yards, 121.5 QB Rating Against
Why would you let the same safety keep getting burned by the same WR you might ask?????? Well, that's one of the reasons everyone wants our DC to be fired.
This post was edited on 12/1/22 at 8:47 am
Posted on 12/1/22 at 8:49 am to koreandawg
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I mean, 50 plus points to Tennessee and wide open WRs all day. How bad are those other two to three guys in the secondary if the other two are A plus?
I guess when you have a moronic DC letting the opposing team's OC abuse a certain matchup all day, it is not so hard to happen. I'm sorry if you are having a hard time with this and how it works but a subpar DC and easily exploited teammates can negate almost any player.
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