re: Per Sports Illustrated, the CFP expansion to 12 teams is in peril

Hey...I gotta go. I enjoyed discussing it. Thanks for your viewpoints!

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How would having more blow outs "grow the game"? As it is now I look forward to the Sugar Bowl, Orange Bowl and soem others. You would not have those compelling match ups so you could pit the #1 team against the #12 team.

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It offers a platform for recruiting to shift. If it's 4 teams, those same teams will continue to recruit the top players because of that status.

When you increase it, players see that they don't have to ride the bench for 3 years to get to play and be seen. They know they can go to that #12 school, get seen early and STILL make the play offs.

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Which game would you prefer to watch? #1 vs #12? or #5 vs #6?

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I prefer to see a better field of competition that results in fans not giving up on the season. Therefore continue to go to games and you see growth.


That's our calling card. Come to Bama and you know you will be on a national championship team at some point, but you will always be in the play offs... plus get paid.

Nobody is going to out recruit and do Bama under these conditions. Like it or not.

I'm fully on board with expansion to 12. 12 makes more sense than 8, for reasons already stated above--the byes make the regular season more meaningful with a playoff system.

Maybe it's time for the Rose Bowl to learn what its current place in the football universe is. This isn't 1965. Maybe, if the Big 10 and the Pac 12 just can't get on board, we take the other leagues and make a playoff; then the Big 10 and Pac 12 can have their own irrelevant circle jerk in Pasadena. Clemson, Notre Dame, those G5 schools, they're going to want a piece of it. You think the ACC is just going to tell ESPN and Clemson to take a flying leap? Not a chance.

The Pac 12 needs this just about worse than anyone else, other than the Big 12. Kliavkoff knows that, and he's actually right that giving everything to ESPN is bad business. Everyone will make more money and exposure giving it to two networks.

Rose Bowl, seriously? We're not holding up this whole circus on the account of one monkey.

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Only history proves you wrong if you look at seeds. Last year #3 blew out #2. In '18 you had #3 vs #4 and #4 blew out #1. #4 also won in '15.


You are missing the point entirely. I am not arguing against a 4 team playoff. I am arguing that if you add 8 additional teams you will get MORE blow outs.

Surely you can see where this is the case. You are doing away with with good closely ranked matchups in the NY6 matchups for matchups between Alabama and Coastal carolina.

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As for Bama playing Memphis or Coastal or whomever in Round 1? Sure, I will watch that game.

I'm sure you will because you are a big college football fan. But the average, casual fan will never watch that game. Crap, I will watch any good match up....but no way I would tune in to Bama/Coastal Carolina. Not for more than 5 minutes anyway.
A casual fan will Watch Oklahoma/Ohio State. They are not going to watch Bama/Coastal.

I would be willing to bet you watched some nondescript Week 0 game this year. I would also guess that they had some very low TV Ratings.

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Only a Coastal Team that is in the Playoff is probably undefeated, maybe has 1 loss. Maybe you think that is an automatic blowout but I don't. As of now it would be Arkansas. Does Bama blow out Arkie? Maybe, but that could be a good game. You have to also realize that a team like Coastal or Arkie would be sky high for that game. Besides it would be only 1 of 8 Opening Weekend games. You really think there won't be some classics with all of those teams playing with the shot at advancing on the line?

Still you are missing the point that right now we get 3 games that matter and at 4 Teams in the Playoff it makes it harder and harder for most schools to have a real shot. Everything is stacked against them from recruiting to hype. With a 16 team (12 is terrible because the byes would be too big of an advantage) you end up with 15 games that matter. A lot can happen in 15 games. Will some be blowouts? Sure, but there will be some huge upsets as well and a lot more drama. With so many more teams fighting for the Playoff and for Playoff positioning you also have a lot more engaged fans for CFB overall.

Also I admit as an SEC fan I selfishly want it. Once Texas and OU join then you could end up with over half of the best teams in 1 Conference but they may still get only 1 out of the 4. The best Championship game so far was Bama v UGA, the only time the SEC got 2 Bids and they were the 3 and the 4. I'm tired of Non SEC Teams getting the other slots when the SEC has 4 Titles and the Field has 3.

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Once OU is in the SEC, the SEC will have at least 3 teams in the 4 team playoff each and every year.

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Good.


There are two things that makes something valuable.

Rarity and demand. If 12 teams make the playoff, then it will no longer be a rare feat to make the playoffs.

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We normally can't even find 4 that are worthy. Now we want to draw a line at 12, Jesus. Yes, that is what I want to see at the end of every year, a debate about A fourth place SEC team versus a third place Big Ten team, or if Liberty deserves a shot.

Stick with 4 unless you plan on shortening the regular season. What’s the point of playing a grueling SEC schedule, winning the SEC championship and then having to play multiple playoff games to win the natty? It would then come down to who came out the healthiest. College football is a violent sport that isn’t comparable to basketball or baseball.

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I bet that they would change their mind if OU and Texas decided to stay in the Big 12.

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It's more the perception that ESPN orchestrated Texas/OU to the SEC than anything else.

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- And finally, should expansion be delayed until the current contract is exhausted after the 2025 season, as to bring this lucrative idea to the open market for more financial benefit?

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They don't particularly want to give ESPN everything they want.

8 enough to keep fans interested for 1 additional week. College football has drop off after 4 but 8 max for interest.

Reality is the other four conferences are fuming the SEC took Texas and Oklahoma and the improvement of some of the weaker teams in the SEC recently makes this conferences even stronger. They dont want the expanded playoffs..it means more SEC teams get in.