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re: Pat Dooley’s Book of Lists:Ranking the SEC coaches on a one-game-for-your-life basis

Posted on 6/7/21 at 6:35 pm to
Posted by TrueLefty
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Posted on 6/7/21 at 6:35 pm to
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Mullen had many chances to take MSU to the next level, he never did it. Trend continues at UF.


But he is recruiting a lot better and finally beat UGA. I agree with Mullen this year will be a huge test for many HCs. This year will be a good one to see where everyone will be at. I see it as a measuring stick. That is why I am looking forward to this year football.
Posted by TrueLefty
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Posted on 6/7/21 at 6:41 pm to
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Must be all them NY6 bowl wins, division titles, SEC championship titles & National titles for Mullen & Kiffin



Got to give them time! Roster wasn't good when they took over. Same for Drinkwitz. That is the point of HC being able to beat a team with equal talents and depth. Those three needs time to build the roster up and get depth. Mullen is this year good or bad. Same for Kirby. Fisher is already right there and should be on staying power since there seems to be no drop off for Fisher. I believe this year will make or break for some HCs. That is why I am looking forward to this year than last year because COVID did messed things up for some HCs.
Posted by TrueLefty
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Posted on 6/7/21 at 6:58 pm to
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But many on here do! Wonder why is that? I guess you didn't see the way he coached at BSU. Why no other top football program went after him?




He has a better win percentage and much more experience than Harry Potter.



So he is an average HC. Drinkwitz is by far much better and experts agree that Drinkwitz first year was good. That is why Drinkwitz is higher on the list due to his HC ability. That will only get better when all of his recruits and transfers get on the field at the same time. Plus needed depth. He is doing a very good job so far. Harsin not so much. How you expect him to beat Ole Miss, Alabama, LSU, Texas A&M, and possibility few more. If he gets Auburn to a 9-3 record that will be very good. I do not have faith that will ever happen because it is Harsin. That is the point he isn't better than Drinkwitz.
This article would be better to be shown after this year. So that it will be a normal season. I would wait after this season to decide where the HCs will be rank. Give it another year and it shall give you an idea. I am still going with Drinkwitz higher than Harsin. Not with what Harsin have already on the team but with the way the HCs coaching the team. Missouri is still a couple more years away to get to compete against some top teams.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 6/7/21 at 7:00 pm to
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Got to give them time! Roster wasn't good when they took over. Same for Drinkwitz. That is the point of HC being able to beat a team with equal talents and depth. Those three needs time to build the roster up and get depth. Mullen is this year good or bad. Same for Kirby. Fisher is already right there and should be on staying power since there seems to be no drop off for Fisher. 


You seem retarded.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 6/7/21 at 7:01 pm to
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So he is an average HC. Drinkwitz is by far much better and experts agree that Drinkwitz first year was good. That is why Drinkwitz is higher on the list due to his HC ability


Drunktitz has only been a head coach for two seasons.

Also, it's hilarious that you think Dooley is an "expert."

Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 6/7/21 at 7:12 pm to
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Drunktitz has only been a head coach for two seasons.

Also, it's hilarious that you think Dooley is an "expert."

How many other experts saying the same thing? You should see what Harsin did at BSU and no one was afraid of BSU but when Peterson was there everyone was afraid of BSU and Peterson. Huge drop off. Then no one wanted Harsin and last minute Auburn hired him and most on here were saying what?! That is how bad of a hired Auburn made. He isn't winning more than 7 games. I say 7-5.
This post was edited on 6/8/21 at 12:57 am
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52470 posts
Posted on 6/7/21 at 7:15 pm to
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How many other experts saying the same thing?


None that I've seen.

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You should see what Harsin did at BSU


He won a shite ton of games, more than your coach has won.

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Then no one wanted Harsin


Based on what? I don't remember folks lining up for Eliah either.
Posted by Poker Dough
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2018
8598 posts
Posted on 6/7/21 at 9:55 pm to
Your coach worked FOR Harsin TWICE and Gus. If Drink was worth a squirt of piss Auburn or Tennesee would have taken him...money wouldn't have been an obstacle. Texas never looked at him, neither did Sourh Carolina. You are a total buttplug
Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 6/7/21 at 10:22 pm to
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Drinkwitz is by far much better

Name one single metric for that brilliant conclusion. Just one. I’ll be waiting with bated breath.

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How many other experts saying the same thing?

How many? Give me one example with a link of an “expert” saying anything of the sort.

Not sure what’s wrong with you, but I’m really starting to feel bad for engaging you. Not sure if you give off a RainMan or a Corky vibe, but something is missing for sure.

This post was edited on 6/7/21 at 10:25 pm
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 6/7/21 at 11:07 pm to
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Your coach worked FOR Harsin TWICE and Gus. If Drink was worth a squirt of piss Auburn or Tennesee would have taken him...money wouldn't have been an obstacle. Texas never looked at him, neither did Sourh Carolina. You are a total buttplug


South Carolina fans really wanted him! They were upset that Mizzou got him and South Carolina wanted Muschamp fired to get him but AD wouldn't do it. Also Arkansas wanted him too! The problem they didn't want to pay a lot for him. That is when they went with Pittman.
This post was edited on 6/7/21 at 11:24 pm
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 6/7/21 at 11:23 pm to
And we know that fans wants are a true indicator of how good a coach really is.
Posted by starkvingrad
Florida
Member since Apr 2021
5837 posts
Posted on 6/7/21 at 11:50 pm to
Wow... that is terrible.
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
14908 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:43 am to
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And we know that fans wants are a true indicator of how good a coach really is.


South Carolina fans were hoping no one would take him after only 1 good year at Appalachian State. Muschamp should have been fired the same year Odom was fired. But it was too expensive. so waited a year longer and boom Mizzou got the HC South Carolina fans wanted at their school. Arkansas was cheap and had too many buyouts from former HCs. Couldn't afford to pay him 4 Million on a one year HC that have backfired on Arkansas for so long. Missouri had nothing to lose and took a gamble on him and it is now paying off very well for Missouri. Most of time no one would take a chance on a one year HC but he is that good and beat South Carolina and North Carolina during the Appalachian State 12-1 record. I wanted Greg Schiano but Drinkwitz was a better fit at Missouri and knows offense. Also Greg Schiano is a better fit at Rutgers. Tennessee blew it and he would have been a homerun hired for the VOLS. Recruiting is the key to compete with the top teams. Look at the top teams and they are in the top 20 in recruiting yearly!
This post was edited on 6/8/21 at 12:45 am
Posted by Poker Dough
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 6/8/21 at 6:06 am to
You are really stupid
Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
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Posted on 6/8/21 at 6:56 am to
Posted by Poker Dough
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 6/8/21 at 7:17 am to
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
14908 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 4:36 pm to
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You are really stupid


How can you explain many of the fans on the SEC saying similar things about Auburn and Mizzou? You telling me Mizzou is worst than before? No way! See the recruiting class for 2022. 4 4* recruits already committed to Missouri. That is unheard of at Missouri. That is huge and Missouri hired a HC that can get 4* players that other Missouri HC couldn't do in one recruiting class. That is what makes a team much better and a good chance to compete against top teams. It will take a couple of years to get all those players on the field at the same time and will be closer to be an equal playing field. If you think recruiting class doesn't matter then you are the dumb one!
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52470 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 4:38 pm to
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How can you explain many of the fans on the SEC saying similar things about Auburn and Mizzou? 


No one is saying these things except for you.
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
14908 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 4:42 pm to
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How can you explain many of the fans on the SEC saying similar things about Auburn and Mizzou? 


No one is saying these things except for you.


Go back to when Harsin was hired! and same when Drinkwitz was hired! You just not a fan of Missouri and do not want Missouri to be successful! Also check out Saturday Down South site! Plenty of fans saying things about Harsin and also the writers saying somethings as well! Please do your research!
This post was edited on 6/8/21 at 4:45 pm
Posted by TideFaninFl
On the space coast
Member since Oct 2017
6620 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 4:45 pm to
Everything being equal, the number 1 HC would be the one that put together the best assistant coaches.

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