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re: Outsiders View of a Bad Call
Posted on 11/10/14 at 10:41 am to BearBait09
Posted on 11/10/14 at 10:41 am to BearBait09
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One thing I don't understand is the PF on Alabama resulted in them having a 1st and 10 from the 20. It should have been 1st and goal shouldn't it? That had an effect, as Alabama needed a 3rd rush to barely get the 1st down that should not have been available.
No, the refs had it right. It should have been 1st and 10 from the 16.
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Posted on 11/10/14 at 10:46 am to BearBait09
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how many blitzes were there? I didn't see any.
You miss jalen mills running free and sims rolling out on him on 3rd down?
Posted on 11/10/14 at 10:47 am to pvilleguru
If this is actually how it is supposed to be per the rule book, it's a flaw. This is literally the only place where a penalty leads to 1st and 10 that I can think of.
Posted on 11/10/14 at 10:47 am to smooth99
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You miss jalen mills running free and sims rolling out on him on 3rd down?
This was the play of the game. If mills gets there the game is over.
Posted on 11/10/14 at 10:47 am to smooth99
That guy misses everything.
Posted on 11/10/14 at 10:48 am to omegadown3
Your own coach, God himself, said that LSU "dominated" the game in his post game on the field comments. Most of those offensive stats came on the last drive & in OT. Prior to that, as I recall, bama/sims had 30 yards in offense?
Posted on 11/10/14 at 10:49 am to BearBait09
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LSU going to prevent defense was a terrible mistake. Sims, as the telecast showed with a graphic, hadn't been able to throw a pass beyond 10 yards. The soft defense and poor pass rush gave Sims a ton of time to make easy throws. After these throws were made, LSU doubled down on their miscue by continually taking tackle angles that allowed the Alabama players to get out of bounds. one our two tackles in bounds could have won the game.
Was not a prevent. DB was blitzing off the QB left side (on the first and second play of that drive I believe). LSU was in a mixed zone/man coverage to compensate for the blitzing DB.
You are right that this defensive series cost them. The right call would have been to play a mix zone/man, NOT blitzing and funneling Sims' pass a short compeletion to the middle of the field. That actually happened with the pass to the TE, but a single DB could not bring the big TE down in bounds. If an extra DB would have been around, maybe the TE goes down inbounds.
Entirely different game there. LSU got aggressive in the wrong way (and prob the wrong time...let the QB just screw-up like he had been all night...) and it cost them on that series.
It was the most important series beside the one right before the fumble. LSU only burned around 30 seconds on the clock with a imcomplete pass on first play (REF called injured timeout even though Jennings stood right back up. Jennings had to set out a down....go figure that one..) Harris come in and 2nd down, runs a keeper OUT OF BOUNDS....killer. Jennings back in on 3rd down for an imcompletion.
Posted on 11/10/14 at 10:50 am to smooth99
quote:So shouldn't this "fundamental flaw" be factored into the equation of determining the "better team"?
No. The problem is we've been hearing that for the last 4 years, and we just keep on winning, so what does that say about LSU? It says that far too often the way LSU plays leaves far too much up to chance...it's a strategy thing. 2012 and 2014 should never have happened the way they did relative to how the two teams played throughout the first 59 minutes of the games. I believe that is a fundamental flaw in how LSU prepares throughout the year leading up to the game.
Man, the bottom line is Alabama had/has more points on the scoreboard at the end of the game/games, and y'all have just got to learn to deal with it.
Posted on 11/10/14 at 10:53 am to Keltic Tiger
Actually what he said was that they dominated the second half from a time of possession and controlling the clock perspective.
Posted on 11/10/14 at 10:54 am to BearBait09
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If this is actually how it is supposed to be per the rule book, it's a flaw. This is literally the only place where a penalty leads to 1st and 10 that I can think of.
Ugh. Thanks for letting me know never to take you seriously in anything you post about football, ever. A dead ball foul before the line of scrimmage has been established prior to a first down has ALWAYS reset the chain, from peewee league through the pros. ALWAYS.
Posted on 11/10/14 at 10:57 am to coachcrisp
Butthurt people can't forget. Bama has won the last 2 in Tiger Stadium (Bryant Denny West). That's what hurts them the most. All the crying and whinning doesn't make this fact change. When all the chips are down, it's not Bama's fault that you didn't produce.
Posted on 11/10/14 at 10:59 am to Miz-Stl
Do you even SEC bro?
Give the refs a chance to frick you; they will.
Especially if you're playing a title contender.
Give the refs a chance to frick you; they will.
Especially if you're playing a title contender.
Posted on 11/10/14 at 11:00 am to Miz-Stl
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I am not sure how that ref makes that call on LSU's lineman late in the game
it was a bull shite call. the refs should not determine the outcome of a game by that kind of call. there was pushing and shoving all night by both teams. it was a holding, pass interference, etc that's different but a judgement call like that is terrible.
I have never been one to whine about the refs as usually bad calls are made against both teams but this game got to me. there were several no calls or no reviews that pissed me off (all favoring bama) but that call took the cake.
I have, for the first time in my life, began to consider that maybe there really is a ref with a dog in the hunt. maybe made him some big bucks on that game.
I umped baseball for mamy years and have seen many bad calls but while football has 'em too, many are reversed. in fact more than one flag was picked up against bama in that game. even the tv crew was questioning several of the refs decisions and actually showed film evidence that the refs screwed the tigers on a coupla calls.
most ref complaints are whining but I really don't think I am. bama played one hell of a game and I congratulate them on a great win on the road. they may have won anyway but first and goal inside the 5 probably would have ended in 7 for LSU.
Posted on 11/10/14 at 11:03 am to coachcrisp
quote:who says we have to deal with it? We're causing an uproar because of it and hopefully the team you love will finally be forced to play in a fairly officiated game one day against a big SEC west opponent.
the bottom line is Alabama had/has more points on the scoreboard at the end of the game/games, and y'all have just got to learn to deal with it.
Till then,keep dragging your little darling Ritter crew to all of your big game SEC West games. We all know you don't care how the win comes. Which is why i give alabam fans pure shite the entire time they're on our campus.
Posted on 11/10/14 at 11:08 am to BamaNixon
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If this is actually how it is supposed to be per the rule book, it's a flaw. This is literally the only place where a penalty leads to 1st and 10 that I can think of.
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Ugh. Thanks for letting me know never to take you seriously in anything you post about football, ever. A dead ball foul before the line of scrimmage has been established prior to a first down has ALWAYS reset the chain, from peewee league through the pros. ALWAYS.
You are correct. The applicable rule is 5-7-something (can't remember the subset) under "foul between series". The dead ball foul is enforced from the end of the run; 1st and 10 at the succeeding spot.
Posted on 11/10/14 at 11:17 am to meauxjeaux2
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who says we have to deal with it? We're causing an uproar because of it and hopefully the team you love will finally be forced to play in a fairly officiated game one day against a big SEC west opponent.
Till then,keep dragging your little darling Ritter crew to all of your big game SEC West games. We all know you don't care how the win comes. Which is why i give alabam fans pure shite the entire time they're on our campus.
Definition of a Rantard right here, folks.
Bama won. LSU lost. Alabama overcame the bad calls against them at the end. LSU folded like Superman on laundry day. Blake Sims led Alabama on two clutch scoring drives. LSU dropped passes and heaved desperation balls into the endzone. As a weak person, you'll always try to be on the victim side of the equation, but the truth is that Bama made the plays at the end, and LSU did not. LSU had the ball for the entire third quarter and got a grand total of three points out of it.
YOU STOLE FIZZY LIFTING DRINK! YOU BUMPED INTO THE CEILING WHICH NOW HAS TO BE WASHED AND STERILIZED, SO YOU GET NOTHING! YOU LOSE! GOOD DAY, SIR!
Posted on 11/10/14 at 11:20 am to BamaNixon
quote:LSU had the ball taken away from them after a bad judgement call made by Ritters crew. Game would have been iced and everyone knows it. You're delusional.
the truth is that Bama made the plays at the end, and LSU did not.
Posted on 11/10/14 at 11:21 am to coachcrisp
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No. The problem is we've been hearing that for the last 4 years, and we just keep on winning, so what does that say about LSU? It says that far too often the way LSU plays leaves far too much up to chance...it's a strategy thing. 2012 and 2014 should never have happened the way they did relative to how the two teams played throughout the first 59 minutes of the games. I believe that is a fundamental flaw in how LSU prepares throughout the year leading up to the game.
So shouldn't this "fundamental flaw" be factored into the equation of determining the "better team"?
Man, the bottom line is Alabama had/has more points on the scoreboard at the end of the game/games, and y'all have just got to learn to deal with it.
Well, I tend to side with understanding "why" things happen. Football at that level is a huge game of inches which can be affected by a ton of variables. Even with that "fundamental flaw", for bama to win that game was borderline absurd. But, it doesn't affect my life any. I love examining the game, and telling "ya'll to deal with it" is hilarious. This is a fun way to kill a day of pto.
Posted on 11/10/14 at 11:25 am to americanrealism
There was one line judge that kept calling penalties against Bama. Everyone else was part of the Bama protection agency.
Yes! And they were signaling for a timeout, till the refs said "No need. Just like every other down: after the play people were pushing, we'll just call a penalty on LSU this time". Bama then used their timeouts to keep even more time on the clock.
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Bama had three timeouts
Yes! And they were signaling for a timeout, till the refs said "No need. Just like every other down: after the play people were pushing, we'll just call a penalty on LSU this time". Bama then used their timeouts to keep even more time on the clock.
Posted on 11/10/14 at 11:28 am to AtlantaLSUfan
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There was one line judge that kept calling penalties against Bama. Everyone else was part of the Bama protection agency.
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Bama had three timeouts
Yes! And they were signaling for a timeout, till the refs said "No need. Just like every other down: after the play people were pushing, we'll just call a penalty on LSU this time". Bama then used their timeouts to keep even more time on the clock.
They still got charged the timeout............
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