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Posted on 7/29/25 at 1:30 pm to ouflak
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How many delay-of-game penalties has Heupel had overall since becoming head coach at Tennessee?
The only time we get delay of games is out of timeouts funnily enough
Posted on 7/29/25 at 1:37 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Heupel's offenses were mediocre/average during his time here and he was terrible at QB recruiting. He wasn't ready to be OC at a program like this and should have cut his teeth elsewhere before being elevated to OC at Oklahoma.
That being said, he was shite-canned and a DC, who was doing much worse, was retained because he was Bob's brother. Bob's retention of his loser brother set us back a decade in terms of being able to put any kind of defense on the field. The firing of Heupel did not set us back a decade anywhere at all.
That being said, he was shite-canned and a DC, who was doing much worse, was retained because he was Bob's brother. Bob's retention of his loser brother set us back a decade in terms of being able to put any kind of defense on the field. The firing of Heupel did not set us back a decade anywhere at all.
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Posted on 7/29/25 at 1:39 pm to ouflak
It is overblown…..both consider it water under the bridge
Posted on 7/29/25 at 1:52 pm to TheGhostofBud
Damn isn’t Mike stoops also the reason Brent venables left his dc spot. His bro needed a job and Brent went from dc to co dc? He seemed to be the secret sauce. OU was consistently a top ten d then sucked on defense after Brent left, coincidentally Clemson who Brent went to became a defensive juggernaut, and now that Brent left them they suck on D too.
Posted on 7/29/25 at 2:21 pm to Wishbone85
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Heupel is also married to former OU President David Borens daughter.
there are a lot of things that are inaccurate on this thread...
But let's start with this one. Heupel's sister is married to Boren's son.
Heupel is married to somebody he grew up with in Aberdeen, SD.
Secondly, Heupel didn't give "twelve years" to OU. He was at Arizona for a while.
Thirdly, Heupel's offense was just fine until '13 and '14 when he didn't have a very good QB. Had he been allowed to stay he would have had Baker Mayfield in '15.
Finally, in fairness to Bob Stoops.... MIke Stoops had only been back for three years when he fired Heupel and the defense had actually made a jump from '12 to '13.... it slipped in '14 but they thought the defense was trending in the right direction. They were wrong.
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Posted on 7/29/25 at 2:30 pm to Globetrotter747
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The five losses:
TCU 37-33
KSU 31-30
Baylor 48-14
OSU 38-35 (OT)
Clemson 40-6
The D gave up at least 31 pts in all five losses. The offense scored at least 30 pts. in 3/5 losses.
It would seem (at least by scores) that the defense was more of a liability than the offense in the five losses.
Mizzou fans know firsthand about the problem with Tubby's offense.
Against average or cupcake teams his offense eats.
Against elite teams they go three and out in less than a minute and your defense is F'ed.
Posted on 7/29/25 at 3:04 pm to Gunga Din
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Secondly, Heupel didn't give "twelve years" to OU. He was at Arizona for a while.
Heupel was the QB for 2 years at OU. He was also a GA in 2004 at OU then left to go to Arizona for one year before going back to Norman. He was essentially there from 2004 to 2014, with the exception of 2005. So he was there really eleven years, I guess. He was the mentor for Jason White, and he was the QB coach for Sam Bradford and Landry Jones. Stoops did him dirty; it's hard to argue. OU's best teams were when the brain trust was Stoops, Heupel, and Venable.
Posted on 7/30/25 at 6:28 am to Harry Rex Vonner
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it's amazing how all you Alabama fans know more football than Mack Brown and Nick Saban
The same reason that the unwashed struggle to appreciate the game at the highest level. What makes someone great can also be a blind spot. Coach Saban, Brown, and everyone else are no exception. Talent can cover up a lot of mistakes. And winning, a lot, is the greatest deodorant that exists.
Firing Kiffin a week before the NC game, with a true freshman QB, was a huge mistake. Expecting Pete Golding to figure out how to stop elite HUNH spread teams for 5 years cost BAMA in the biggest games. And also one of the great mysteries when you think about how little patience Coach Saban demonstrated with assistant coaches that he felt weren't producing. We're talking a cup of coffee and a hearty goodbye.
Posted on 7/30/25 at 6:33 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
>Makes Heupel go away from the air raid
>hires Air Raid Riley to replace Heupel
The end
>hires Air Raid Riley to replace Heupel
The end
Posted on 7/30/25 at 7:58 am to VFL67
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Heupel was fired by Stoops as the OC because Stoops didn't want to fire his brother Mike (who was a bad DC). Then he brought in Lincoln Riley to basically run the same offense that Heupel was running successfully. Heupel feels like he got scapegoated for a bad season that was really the defenses fault. Set Heupel's career back cause his own coach abandoned him. He had to go to Utah State and start over. Now he hates Stoops and wont really be in the same room with him or so I've heard. Heupel had basically given 12 years of his life to OU and Stoops but when push came to shove, Stoops picked his brother over Heupel.
It still blows my mind to this day that Bob chose to fire Heupel instead of “Leaky” Mike. It was obvious the defense was the real problem. Sure, Heupel had room to grow—he was still raw and working through some learning curves, but he wasn’t the main issue. That said, if Bob hadn’t let Heupel go, we probably never would’ve gotten Lincoln Riley.
Posted on 7/30/25 at 8:18 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
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Lets not forget that Stoops also wanted him to run the Zone Read, which is not what he was originally brought in to run. In the Sugar Bowl against Bama, he ran the offense he wanted to run and it was the best offensive showing of the year.
the zone read is a play. It’s not an offense. So not sure what you mean here.
I call it that because every play we ran that year was some variation of zone read plays, be it 100% run to RPO to whatever.
Posted on 7/30/25 at 8:42 am to VFL67
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Heupel was the QB for 2 years at OU. He was also a GA in 2004 at OU then left to go to Arizona for one year before going back to Norman. He was essentially there from 2004 to 2014, with the exception of 2005. So he was there really eleven years, I guess.
Yes, I was a bit pedantic there. I actually was thinking about the years that Heupel was out of college football as being "Arizona years"... should have done a better job adding up the years you were talking about.
But your point that he was an "OU guy" is certainly true. They was also a story floating around here at the time that Stoops didn't fire Heupel in person. That he texted him to tell him. And that is actually the main reason that Heupel is angry at Stoops.
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