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re: Only two ways out of this for Alabama. Both will be painful.

Posted on 9/1/25 at 4:01 pm to
Posted by KirbySmartass
Member since Jul 2020
2927 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 4:01 pm to
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But I am going to love the next 2 years of Bama burning.


Oh, we all are.

Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
18630 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 4:04 pm to
Welcome back to Earth you spoiled rats.
Slowly you’ll accept that a natty is not a yearly right. You gotta earn it like the rest of us
Posted by bamaoldtimer
Member since Dec 2009
1572 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 4:06 pm to
1. Alabama does not have the money to fire DeBoer.
2. Go look at replay of game. Look for effort, passion, tough nose Bama ball. Not there. Why? You think if DeBoer went in at halftime and did a Saban job on them they would have come out like injuns with their hair on fire! No.
3. Talent- you think Bama really had a huge talent edge? I don’t
4. Coaching- you really think the mental errors, penalties were the coaches fault? No.
5. Desire to win. Who had it more. Bama or FSU? FSU.


So, post away on a LSU Board how you want to fire DeBoer and his coaches. I dought you have the money.

I’ve been watching Bama football since 1961. Seen the highs and lows.

Get a grip.
Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
14073 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 4:09 pm to
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Option 1: Cut bait, pay the buyout, lose a bunch of players, and dig in for a long term rebuild done the right way with a new, likely unheralded hire.


This is the route we've been on, involuntarily.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
15422 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 4:11 pm to
Who is the sure thing to replace him? Not out there.

Enjoy a few years of supporting the team,give him 2-3 seasons and see if the next great one emerges

Posted by RollingwiththeTide
Member since Oct 2020
5733 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 4:12 pm to
I agree with almost everything you just said except for the talent part. Bama has plenty of talent. They just do not have the right kind of leadership on the team and the coaches are not stepping in and filling that gap. This team needs someone throwing a fit. Some teams police themselves but this one does not.
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
8725 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 4:25 pm to
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Option 1: Cut bait, pay the buyout, lose a bunch of players, and dig in for a long term rebuild done the right way with a new, likely unheralded hire.


Like with Perkins? Curry? Turkey Neck? Mike Dubose? Dennis Fransomething? Mike Shula? Mike Price?

You assume the next guy is the right guy and things will be done the right way. Doubtful
Posted by CollegeFBRules
Member since Oct 2008
25160 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 4:59 pm to
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It's one game. Are you 6 years old? You and your whiney buddies act like it. Whether you like it or not, CKD will be at BAMA through 2026 because of $$$. Turn off your TV, if you can't handle it, but quit posting every stupid thought that enters your head.


As much as I am absolutely loving the overreaction and crap Bama is getting, I absolutely think this is a wild overreaction and this team is not nearly as bad as the impression that came out of that game this weekend.
Posted by bamaoldtimer
Member since Dec 2009
1572 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 5:03 pm to
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I agree with almost everything you just said except for the talent part


I see where you might think this. However, go over top recruits we lost even With Saban his last few years. Saban departing like he did blew up the team as we all know.

I won’t list them but we had players who would have been starting Saturday if Saban was still the coach.

I believe DeBoer last year stitched together what talent he had and honestly did a good job imho.

Yes, I don’t believe our talent level is anywhere where it was under Saban. That’s not DeBoer’s fault and watching FSU, I only saw better athleticism, faster play, heads-up play. I call that talent.

If given time,I do believe DeBoer will field a winning team. I don’t expect DeBoer to field teams like the Bama’s from 2008 to 2023 unless he can recruit and teach up that talent.

I saw like you a lack of passion, toughness, fire in the belly Bama ball from those players. Sure, a few were giving their all, but winning football requires everyone give their all. Now this I CAN blame on the coaches. Not sure if DeBoer has it in his DNA but I want to see passion from him. His team is laid back like him.

Roll Damn Tide.
Posted by TN Tygah
Member since Nov 2023
7837 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 5:08 pm to
What? Cut bait? Bama already paid Washington $12M to buy out DeBoer. DeBoer’s contract has $60M left after this season. Do you realize how colossal of a buyout that is? Very few schools can pull that kind of money at all, let alone after 2 years of coaching, and Bama isn’t one of them. It’s not enough for Bama fans that they’re delusional about football that they have to be delusional about money, too?

There is no way out of it. Bama was mediocre last year, and now they’re downright bad, like, 3rd tier SEC bad. They sold out and got a flavor of the month coach with only 4 years HC experience and are likely stuck through 2028, at the end of which his buyout will still be $30M.
Posted by BigOrangeKen
Union City
Member since Oct 2015
3872 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 5:10 pm to
You Bama fans are hitting the fire button way too fast.
Look at your blue chip ratio are you willing to sacrifice those players to the portal?
You know they will jump ship NIL era no one is faithful.
It was game 1 you played a hungry FSU
From a Vol we can give you guys some solid advice on bad coaching hires
Your coach isn’t the problem the players acted like they didn’t want to play
Now if you lose to Vandy again I will agree to fire the coach.
Just relax it’s a long season
Posted by MillerLiteTime
Member since Aug 2018
3749 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 5:37 pm to
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are likely stuck through 2028, at the end of which his buyout will still be $30M.


You are proving the opposite point that you are trying to make. The way his contract is structured, there is no magic year to wait for that makes this more tenable. We owe him 90% of his contract one way or another and the buyout only goes down little by little each month by the salary we pay him. It's a sunk cost. The question becomes would we rather pay that money for him to keep leading the program or to move out of the way.

What people forget is how equally expensive it is to keep a coach who has lost the fan base. Donors stop writing checks, alumni engagement decreases, student recruitment suffers, out of state students paying 3x tuition don't enroll.

Huge athletic departments leverage buyouts with debt in the same way they fund a locker room renovation over 15 years. It's basically self-insurance to cover a worst case scenario like this. 5-6 mil a year to keep the entire operation from collapsing is nothing to a university of Alabama's size and revenue. Hell just the bump in ESPN money for the 9th conference game could fund his buyout alone.
This post was edited on 9/1/25 at 6:19 pm
Posted by TN Tygah
Member since Nov 2023
7837 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 7:58 pm to
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It's a sunk cost. The question becomes would we rather pay that money for him to keep leading the program or to move out of the way.


You’re assuming his replacement will be better though. What are you guys going to do, get a budget coach where the status quo may be maintained, or just bite the bullet and ride out a few 7-5 seasons with the occasional 8-4? Devil you know vs devil you don’t kind of thing. I do not see Bama taking on another $10M / year contract unless a coach with 20+ years experience and significant success becomes available.

This is why I both liked and hated the BK move. We needed to right the ship at the cost of getting a guy who may have reached his ceiling. But he’s experienced and we have a good idea of his floor, you can be pretty confident he’ll give you 9 or 10 wins a year. We don’t know DeBoer’s floor yet which is the most concerning part for Bama.
Posted by RollingwiththeTide62
Member since Aug 2024
4057 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 8:02 pm to
Option 3/4

Bill Curry treatment which I oppose

For cause firing
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
21429 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 8:11 pm to
If bama bottoms out this year, with all the buy out / new hire money, on top of the $12M paid out to Washington ( to get him out of that contract), bama cant afford to terminate him this year. Which would / will leave him as a lame duck coach next year, killing recruiting. bama could seriously be toast.
Posted by spacecitydude
HTX
Member since Nov 2021
177 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 8:45 pm to
Solid Analysis, 10/10. Would read again. (Despite my downvote)
Posted by Fearless and True
N Carolina
Member since Aug 2022
1579 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 8:52 pm to
Price came from Wazzu.
Posted by GoGators1995
Member since Jan 2023
6197 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 8:52 pm to
Find a way to fire KDB with cause and then hire Napier.
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
87434 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 8:57 pm to
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Find a way to fire KDB with cause and then hire Napier.


Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49741 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 8:57 pm to
Agree
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