re: Oklahoma AG Speaks out against LSU "NFL" players, unaware OU signs NFL Broncos Player

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First, his name is Braxton Fely. Secondly, he did not declare for the draft. he was a senior that used up his 4 years of eligibility, therefore did not have to declare. He was automatically placed in the draft. Neither nor Hutson declared. neither were drafted and neither were offered UDFA contracts.

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So they were both entered in the draft, got it.

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Signing some sort of agreement.

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They do not sign an agreement. They sign a waiver.

But yes. In reality there is very little difference. They all get NFL instruction....although, I doubt there is a whole lot of instruction going on. The minicamp is primarily to get drafted and UDFA with contracts in shape for training camp, and to scout UDFA without contracts, to see if they want to sign a contract with them. Very, very few UDFA that are not immediately tendered contracts after the draft are signed out of minicamp, although it has happened. I want to say there was a widereceiver that turned out to be pretty good that did get signed as an UDFA without a contract going into a minicamp.

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This si where we will continue to disagree. The purpose of a waiver is to protect the NFL team and does nothing for the player. A contract shows benefits for both parties involved.

Neither of the players were ever on an NFL roster.

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The benefit to the NFL is the ability to add a worthy player to their roster.

Are you really going to argue that having free try outs by undrafted players doesn’t benefit the NFL?

He's an Oklahoma STATE graduate!!

Go Pokes!!

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They sign an agreement that includes a waiver.

Signing a waiver doesn’t entitle them to per diemZ

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Ok. As I said before. Show me. I see where they sign waivers. Nowhere where they sign a contract. If they signed a contract, they would have to be on the roster. They simply are not employees of the NFL team. They want to be They are trying to be. If/when they sign a contract they become members of the team and are placed on the roster.

They already have drafted players, players signed after the draft as UDFA, and the next tier is called UDFA not under contract that are allowing what amounts to walk ons trying to make the team. UDFA not under contract.

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And the player gets paid for their time.

A two way agreement.

A contract.

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Here is just one example of what I am talking about:

The Eagles made a minor roster swap, releasing one undrafted rookie and signing another who was at minicamp on a tryout.

According to the NFL’s transaction wire, the Eagles on Monday waived Washington State defensive back Tucker Large with a non-football injury designation and signed Idaho linebacker Isiah King to take that spot.

Isaiah King went to minicamp, impressed and then was signed to a contract.


Here is another concerning Pavia:

While many had hoped he would get a UDFA contract, it seems he will have to settle for a minicamp invite with the Ravens, with Double Take Sports’ CEO Carita Parks highlighting the invite on X, explaining, “This was a popular topic after the draft. Looks like Diego Pavia will be in Baltimore next weekend for Ravens rookie minicamp.”

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Isaiah King went to minicamp, impressed and then was signed to a contract.

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An employment contract

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Nowhere where they sign a contract. If they signed a contract, they would have to be on the roster

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The problem is that the SEC did not specify the type of contract. The rule in the statement put out by the SEC:

Signed a contract with an NFL (or other professional football league), NBA/G-League, or WNBA (or affiliate) team.

The SEC did not specify it to be a player contract and just went with a contract. It’s a technicality that, based on what we know, the minicamp tryout players signed a “contract” for the weekend tryout.

Per Google AI:

Yes, a rookie minicamp tryout agreement is a legally binding contract, but it is distinct from an NFL Player Contract.

While it does not guarantee employment, a roster spot, or an NFL salary, it meets all the legal requirements of a contract under American contract law.

Why It Is Legally a Contract?

(1) Offer and Acceptance: The NFL team offers an invitation to try out under specific conditions, and the player accepts by signing.

(2) Consideration (The "Exchange"): Both parties exchange something of value. The team provides coaching exposure, medical coverage, travel, and lodging. The player provides their time, athletic performance, and a release of certain legal liabilities.

(3) Mutual Assent: Both parties agree to the terms, limits, and rules outlined in the document.

What the Contract Actually Enforces:

Instead of establishing a multi-year employment relationship, this specific contract legally binds both parties to three main things:

(1) Liability and Injury Protection: It legally binds the team to pay for medical care if the player is hurt during the tryout, while simultaneously protecting the team from a broader personal injury lawsuit.

(2) CBA Rules: It forces the team to comply with NFL Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA) rules, such as paying the required per diem and respecting practice hour limits.

(3) The Right to Walk Away: It explicitly states that the contract expires at the end of the weekend and that the team has no legal obligation to sign the player to the actual 90-man roster.