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Posted on 12/27/24 at 5:46 pm to
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
64573 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 5:46 pm to
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I love Arkansas uses the west is too hard excuse but also won all their games in the west before Saban took power
I think it's pretty obvious that having the best college football coach of all time in your division for 25 years makes things a bit harder. Especially considering we joined in 92 and were in Atlanta by 95.

I'm sure it's just coincidence that Mizzou fell off a cliff the moment a couple of the traditional East powers got their collective acts together.
This post was edited on 12/27/24 at 5:51 pm
Posted by Gunga Din
Oklahoma
Member since Jul 2020
3100 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 6:05 pm to
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As much as I am enjoying watching the collapse going on in Norman, it is nothing like the John Blake 1996/1997 season seasons.

Blake went 7-16 and endured

- 69-7 and 73-21 losses to Nebraska
- a 51-7 loss to A&M
- Lost to Kansas twice including the 54-24 drubbing in 96


The main difference is that when Blake first got to OU...

Many people were skeptical because it doesn't take long listening to Blake in order to figure out that he wasn't the sharpest tool in the shed.
There is a whole back story about why John Blake got the job at OU... and none of it has anything to do with whether he was head coaching material.

With Venables... expectations were high because there is nothing about Venables that indicates that he wouldn't be a good coach.

Guys like Teddy Lehman (former Butkus winner and now radio guy) announced that Brent was going to win a national championship by year four. That was the kind of energy that was around the hire.

He has floundered badly. This program is not one bit better and is probably worse than when he took Riley's leftovers in '22.

So I think in that regard it is worse than Blake... because the expectations were way higher.
Posted by LSUTigresFan
SE Louisiana to Austin (Texas Ex)
Member since Mar 2013
6227 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 6:07 pm to
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With Venables... expectations were high because there is nothing about Venables that indicates that he wouldn't be a good coach.


The dude had to sign steal to be successful at Clemson.
Posted by TS1926
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
7491 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 6:21 pm to
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The dude had to sign steal to be successful at Clemson.


He’s still doing it. Two guys in the booth with binoculars in the Bama game.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
125762 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 7:23 pm to
Posted by everytrueson
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Mar 2012
7580 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 7:36 pm to
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SoonerKA1999


Posted by bcoop199
Kansas City, MISSOURI
Member since Nov 2013
8811 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 7:36 pm to
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I'm sure it's just coincidence that Mizzou fell off a cliff the moment a couple of the traditional East powers got their collective acts together.


Wrong, it happened when Pinkel got cancer and retired.
Posted by n64ra
Member since Jul 2024
2110 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 7:44 pm to
Navy’s first win against the SEC since 1955. Great job, OU!
Posted by 6columns
Member since Jun 2024
2178 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 7:55 pm to
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Holy shite what an awful 2 point conversation attempt. Wtf OU.


I see this so often. QBs stupid enough to take a sack or actually throw it away on a 2-point try. You throw it into the EZ and take your chances. Same for 4th down. No sacks, no throwaways.

And maybe Venables is an idiot if he didn't emphasize that to Hawkins before the 2-point try.
Posted by blzr
Saratoga
Member since Mar 2011
30744 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 8:39 pm to
Sec sucks
Posted by HorniestHorn
Member since Dec 2023
111 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 9:06 pm to
OU was not SEC ready
Posted by Mizzouligan
St. Louis, MO
Member since Aug 2014
2245 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 9:36 pm to
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See you in Norman next year.


I’ll be there with ten. You should worry about being able to field a team at this point.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
26039 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 9:37 pm to
They beat an OU team that lost 30% of its players to the porta hardly close to full strength.
Posted by NickPapageorgio
Yuma, AZ
Member since Oct 2014
1272 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 10:02 pm to
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They beat an OU team that lost 30% of its players to the porta hardly close to full strength.


Do SEC teams need to be full strength to beat Navy?

That was embarrassing. Notre Dame beat them 51-14 and it wasn't that close.

OU fans need to prepare themselves for another very disappointing season next year. Their team is a lot of players away from becoming a contender in the SEC.

Navy didn't have 5 guys who'd have gotten an offer from an SEC school. OU had no excuse. The program is in shambles.
Posted by BevoHornsUp
Member since Feb 2023
225 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 10:05 pm to
I question if Oklahoma is able to compete with the top 10 NIL programs in this new era. I’m not even sure they’re a top 15 NIL program. I don’t love everything about NIL and this portal era but…it is what it is.
Posted by Arkyologist
Appalachia
Member since Feb 2023
394 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 10:40 pm to
Which god?
Posted by OKinTX21
Member since Sep 2024
603 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 10:42 pm to
I’d take that bet any day of the week.
Posted by Miz-Stl
Wildwood, MO
Member since Sep 2012
254 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 10:50 pm to
Wow Arky fans sure chirp a lot. The only thing I know about their school is that it gives Mizzou an auto win in its last regular season football game every year. Thanks for the win donation pig fans.
Posted by OKinTX21
Member since Sep 2024
603 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 10:57 pm to
Let’s play a game: what program is this?
2014: 6-7
2015: 5-7
2016: 5-7 Head coach fired.
2017: 7-6
2018: 10-4
2019: 8-5
2020: 7-3 Head coach fired.
2021: 5-7
2022: 8-5
2023: 12-2

-10 year record: 73-53 (.579)
-Record against arch rival: 3-8 (.273)
-3 different head coaches

Never, ever talk about being the Nebraska of any conference ever again. Because Texas was just as pathetic, even more so considering the wealth of resources available.
Posted by OKinTX21
Member since Sep 2024
603 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 11:00 pm to
Regarding Venables: quit being dramatic. This is not within the realm of John Blake.

The guy had a horrible offense and a good defense. He got his guys on offense now, so let him prove he can put it all together.

Glad you and a few others in our fanbase don’t call the shots because you’re way too trigger happy and not see the forest for the trees.
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