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re: Notre Dame takes shots at Brian Kelly for no reason?
Posted on 6/4/25 at 12:59 pm to JayAg
Posted on 6/4/25 at 12:59 pm to JayAg
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Their beat writers low key dropped an interesting article that really takes some shots at Kelly. Digging into his big game record, and all.
If it wasn't for BK, Freeman wouldn't have inherited a situation WAY BETTER than what BK inherited in 2010 btw BK DID lead Notre Dame to their first no. 1 ranking in a VERY LONG TIME, kick rocks haters, you can champion your current coach and BK and not come off as a jackass
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Posted on 6/4/25 at 1:03 pm to Colonel Ingus
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Marcus Freeman at ND: .714
Brian Kelly at ND: .697
Notre Dame got better when he left.
Yikes!
Brian Kelly's last Notre Dame team before he left for Baton Rouge was top 5 in the nation entering the Fiesta Bowl
Posted on 6/4/25 at 1:05 pm to Gen Patton
they are mad because Kelly called them out for not supporting the program. And he was 100% right, as soon as he left, they finally got their act together and started raising money to pay players and upgrade their facilities.
They thought they could still win by their name alone and it just isn't true anymore. Nobody under the age of 50 cares about ND for anything more than they are just another college football team.
Either way, Kelly left them in a great position as he finished #5 his last year and made the national title once and the top 4 playoffs twice.
They thought they could still win by their name alone and it just isn't true anymore. Nobody under the age of 50 cares about ND for anything more than they are just another college football team.
Either way, Kelly left them in a great position as he finished #5 his last year and made the national title once and the top 4 playoffs twice.
Posted on 6/4/25 at 1:10 pm to Sl0thstronautEsq
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Kelly left Freeman a team ranked #10 in the 247 Talent Composite.
O left Kelly a team ranked #8 in the 247 Talent Composite.
LSU fans really need to stop perpetuating this lie that O left the cupboard bare.
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Sl0thstronautEsq
This clown again...O left us with NCAA sanctions, Title 9 investigations, Derrius Guice allegations, 39 scholarship players when we played the bowl, gimme a break dawg...LSU's prospects and condition entering 2022 were not AT ALL comparable to Notre Dame's who entered that season ranked 5th in the country btw. LSU was effectively at the lowest point it's been since 1999 pre-Saban. GTFOH with that Tuscaloosa propaganda.
Posted on 6/4/25 at 1:11 pm to Gen Patton
ND is one of the most delusional fan bases on the face of the earth. These people haven't won shite in almost 40 years but they think people give a frick about how much they won before the forward pass was invented.
They're pissed Kelly left them because "no one leaves ND." They were pissed on day 1 and they're still pissed on day 1,283.
Wait until they lose 3-4 games this year.
They're pissed Kelly left them because "no one leaves ND." They were pissed on day 1 and they're still pissed on day 1,283.
Wait until they lose 3-4 games this year.
Posted on 6/4/25 at 1:18 pm to Tigers0918
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they are mad because Kelly called them out for not supporting the program. And he was 100% right, as soon as he left, they finally got their act together and started raising money to pay players and upgrade their facilities.
I mean Brady Quinn literally admitted this on the radio/podcast, it's not speculation or conjecture
Posted on 6/4/25 at 1:18 pm to Jebadeb
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The debate about Freeman and Kelly is tired. They're both good coaches.
ND has benefitted from Freeman and a larger investment in football since Kelly left.
LSU has been decent. What you saw last year was a program that failed to match the investments of other programs like Ohio State and Ole Miss.
That being said, Kelly needs to go 10-2 or better this year. The excuses are beginning to run dry.
100%
Posted on 6/4/25 at 1:19 pm to ThePoo
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Kelly Had 39 players on scholarship available when he took over
You mean players transferred when O was fired...c'mon, they all transfer when a coach is fired.
Posted on 6/4/25 at 1:21 pm to JayAg
Is Freeman building a dynasty?
Not knocking him and not the biggest BK fan
But, what Freeman took over at ND is better than what BK took over when hired at ND. And Freeman has yet to really accomplish anything BK didn’t while there.
Not knocking him and not the biggest BK fan
But, what Freeman took over at ND is better than what BK took over when hired at ND. And Freeman has yet to really accomplish anything BK didn’t while there.
Posted on 6/4/25 at 1:22 pm to Gen Patton
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GTFOH with that Tuscaloosa propaganda.
LSU fans like to use the 247 Talent Composite to argue that DeBoer is "Husky Harsin" and isn't built to win in the SEC because he didn't win an NC with the most talented roster in the country, so I think it's fair to point out that the 247 Talent Composite also shows that Kelly had more talent in his first season at LSU than Freeman did in his first season at ND
I guess what you're trying to say is that the 247 Talent Composite isn't the be-all and end-all when evaluating coaching performances. Funny that that's the case when talking about BK, but not when talking about DeBoer.
This post was edited on 6/4/25 at 1:32 pm
Posted on 6/4/25 at 1:31 pm to JayAg
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Now I dislike LSU too
Only because A&M will never win anything of significance, and you are unable to comprehend that a poor state like Louisiana has more championships at its major public university than a state like Texas that can’t seem to buy one.
Posted on 6/4/25 at 1:34 pm to Sl0thstronautEsq
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I think it's fair to point out that the 247 Talent Composite also shows that Kelly had more talent in his first season at LSU than Freeman did in his first season at ND
I agree, and 2022 LSU was better than 2022 Notre Dame.
Posted on 6/4/25 at 1:36 pm to Jebadeb
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That being said, Kelly needs to go 10-2 or better this year
Or what? His buyout is still two years away minimum from being something LSU can afford.
Posted on 6/4/25 at 1:40 pm to Sl0thstronautEsq
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I think it's fair to point out that the 247 Talent Composite also shows that Kelly had more talent in his first season at LSU than Freeman did in his first season at ND I guess what you're trying to say is that the 247 Talent Composite isn't the be-all and end-all when evaluating coaching performances.
You can’t be serious pretending those respective situations were equal lmfao Tuscalosers
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LSU fans like to use the 247 Talent Composite to argue that DeBoer is "Husky Harsin" and isn't built to win in the SEC because he didn't win an NC with the most talented roster in the country
I mean are you denying that was the case with DeBose and what he fielded for the 2024 season?
Posted on 6/4/25 at 1:42 pm to JayAg
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He’s not lying, after he reinforced with transfers
Did ND have to to go and get transfers after CBK left?
That’s the point
It was a program in shambles when O left - including firing the HC versus CBK leaving on his own accord
This post was edited on 6/4/25 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 6/4/25 at 1:43 pm to SidewalkTiger
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I agree, and 2022 LSU was better than 2022 Notre Dame.
For sure. I think it was a good fit for both schools. BK was experienced and well-equipped to take over an LSU program that O had, frankly, been running into the ground, whereas Freeman was a first-time HC taking over an established program that BK had kept pretty stable throughout the years.
I think it would have been a real disaster if LSU had hired a first-time HC (at least for the first few years) based on the state of their program at the time.
This post was edited on 6/4/25 at 1:53 pm
Posted on 6/4/25 at 1:45 pm to Gen Patton
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Gen Patton
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Tuscalosers
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DeBose
Oh, you're one of those posters who uses dumb nicknames to try and make a point. Thank you for letting me know it's not worth engaging with you.
Have a good one!
Posted on 6/4/25 at 1:50 pm to SEC Doctor
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A big part of Freeman's success is that ND realized when they lost their coach that they had to open up the purse strings to compete in the current college football landscape. ND benefitted greatly last season from buying players in the portal.
While this is true, freeman also coached up that team. They play extremely sound football on defense. Honestly I'd love to see that from lsu.
Now, freeman had a much better foundation and roster.
Posted on 6/4/25 at 1:52 pm to DBird
quote:yes it’s quite common to lose 55% of a roster off an SEC team
You mean players transferred when O was fired...c'mon, they all transfer when a coach is fired.
What a dumb take
This post was edited on 6/4/25 at 1:54 pm
Posted on 6/4/25 at 1:53 pm to JayAg
They are probably better off in the long run. Freeman can actually coach a defense.
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