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Posted on 12/9/25 at 9:38 am to TideWarrior
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The B12 is a borderline g6 conference.
Bawahaha. Given how Bama played Auburn and UGA welcome to the gX. The Big12 winner would beat your arse. After that arse whipping vs UGA and the Auburn no-show you might want to wait until next year before talking trash about other teams and conferences.
Posted on 12/9/25 at 10:28 am to Red_and_black
We are not talking about one team we are talking about the conference as a whole. Did I ever say TTU was not a good team? No but for whatever reason you deflected from my post.
As a conference B12 is not a P4 level conference. Believe what you want. It is a one hit wonder right now and maybe each year have 2 teams that are somewhat in the discussion. The SEC had 7 teams that were worthy of the playoffs this year. B12 will never see that number even if ND joined it.
As a conference B12 is not a P4 level conference. Believe what you want. It is a one hit wonder right now and maybe each year have 2 teams that are somewhat in the discussion. The SEC had 7 teams that were worthy of the playoffs this year. B12 will never see that number even if ND joined it.
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Posted on 12/9/25 at 10:30 am to TideWarrior
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The SEC had 7 teams that were worthy of the playoffs this year.
bullshite, they had 4
Posted on 12/9/25 at 10:31 am to TideWarrior
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The SEC had 7 teams that were worthy of the playoffs this year. B12 will never see that number even if ND joined it.
The Big ten has maybe three teams and that didn’t matter the last few years. Nebraska built a powerhouse of years in playing a shite conference schedule. Conference affiliation isn’t what it used to be.
Posted on 12/9/25 at 10:31 am to RohanGonzales
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bullshite, they had 4
Whatever you want to believe sunshine but the b12 only had 1 so my argument still stands that the b12 is really a g6 conference.
Posted on 12/9/25 at 10:37 am to TideWarrior
It all has to do with TV contracts and ND/NBC contract. ABC/ESPN won't budget on any of it. The big 12s contract with espn and fox is more liberal with new partnerships.
Posted on 12/9/25 at 10:39 am to Nasty_Canasta
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The Big ten has maybe three teams and that didn’t matter the last few years. Nebraska built a powerhouse of years in playing a shite conference schedule. Conference affiliation isn’t what it used to be.
It still does not change anything I said about the b12. The playoffs are dictated by tv contracts and two power conferences right now. Again TTU could be the next Nebraska but it does not change the b12 conference competitive with the big 2
Posted on 12/9/25 at 11:13 am to scrooster
"Could" is doing a lot of work in that twitter post
Posted on 12/9/25 at 11:22 am to scrooster
ND should just move to the new Pac12.
Posted on 12/9/25 at 11:25 am to scrooster
Football would be independent. They want to mooch off of a conference for the crappy sports like baseball, etc.
Posted on 12/9/25 at 12:03 pm to BoomerandSooner
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Notre Dame finally got in the AAU, that was critical for making the B1G work.
Nebraska says hi. They were kicked out of the AAU in 2011.
They were in the AAU though and were a blue blood (not so much anymore). It's not a perfect rule but every other B1G school is in the AAU and they have added teams like Rutgers and Maryland where AAU status clearly played a big part in that. The B1G uses athletics to support academics and research spending. The SEC treats athletics as more of a separate entity. They are also elitist AF and have treated Nebraska like a stepchild but Nebraska had little choice, they are a school that is screwed in the modern era of CFB unless Warren Buffett decides to give them a billion or two.
Posted on 12/9/25 at 12:12 pm to 3down10
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You sure the Big10 doesn't want them? Because they've been trying to add ND for at least 50 years.
B1G members have been saying, openly, that they don't want them. That ship sailed after two snubs.
The B1G went west and filled their expansion needs.
And the SEC will definitely not entertain the thought of taking ND. The SEC, far more than any other Conference, is culturally driven. And Notre Dame doesn't fit out culture.
Furthermore, it was established long ago, that the SEC tends to want Flagship universities as a long term strategic model. The SEC's member institutions are comprised mostly of Flagship universities located in the Confederate South ... which is why our next expansion will include UNC and UVA.
Posted on 12/9/25 at 12:16 pm to scrooster
ND wants access to a conference schedule without sharing their TV deal. Conference games at South Bend? All ND money. What do they offer? A sense of legitimacy and prestige? I prefer the cash.
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Posted on 12/9/25 at 12:17 pm to Slums_Alum
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Notre Dame finally got in the AAU, that was critical for making the B1G work. That move makes all the sense in the world.
You don’t seem to understand the past relationship when it comes to ND and the Big Ten. That conference is no longer interested in reaching out to them. It’s a no go. A non starter.
I completely understand it and all things being equal ND would stay independent and the B1G would have never expanded. That world is no more though and it's an era of Super Conferences. The B1G and ND need each other in that world even if they don't like each other.
BTW part of the reason the AAU membership is significant is the B1G has so many votes and they were a big part of getting ND in. ND is actually not a great candidate. Excellent academic school certainly but they are not a real research school and the AAU is about research and money. They don't have a Med school and they don't have much of an Engineering school. ND spent about $230 million on research last year which is not impressive for that group. By comparison A&M is well over $1 Billion. NC State was NOT selected and they are over $600 million, same with Virginia Tech. In short there is some serious politics that pushed ND into the AAU and because of the size of the B1G block of votes they had to be in favor of it.
Posted on 12/9/25 at 12:18 pm to aggressor
they looking for an even easier schedule?
Posted on 12/9/25 at 12:28 pm to Corriente Kid
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If you think ND wants to be playing 9 games against the likes of Kansas State, Baylor, and Oklahoma State
As opposed to their current schedule?
ND's current schedule has their regular rivals with USC, Boston College, Navy, and Stanford. It also has a nice selection of B1G and ACC schools like Purdue which is right down the road from them. Then you add in A&M and others every year. No FCS teams and very few G5s. You can certainly argue it isn't an SEC schedule but it's got a lot of name brands and fits with them well traditionally. They tend towards the East Coast and B1G schools with a few others mixed in for flavor. They have rarely played any current Big 12 schools in the regular season because they don't get national interest and their fans also aren't interested.
ND loves their elitism and being forced to just be another team in the Big 12 and having to share with schools that are well below them in the pecking order is just not something they would do.
Posted on 12/9/25 at 12:32 pm to aggressor
ND should join the conference JMU is in……
Posted on 12/9/25 at 12:40 pm to TideWarrior
The Big 12 is better than the ACC. Are there only two power conferences? The Big 12 actually had a lot of decent teams this year - teams that were better than much of the ACC and better than many Big Ten teams.
Texas Tech is really good. They would have competed well in the SEC this year. They spent $20-$30 million on this year’s roster. That defense is elite.
Texas Tech is really good. They would have competed well in the SEC this year. They spent $20-$30 million on this year’s roster. That defense is elite.
Posted on 12/9/25 at 12:59 pm to scrooster
The Big 12 would probably be an idiotic move even if they feel snubbed by the ACC.
Notre Dame's most commonly played opponents are not bad. Games against Southern California, Michigan, Michigan State, Purdue, Navy, Boston College rounded out with three or four ACC teams is a legitimate schedule if at least a few of their opponents are ranked and they win their games. If you lose? Well, being left out of the national championship picture is what's supposed to happen.
Their problem and their virtue is their independent status. That was something that emerged by institutional decision in the early 20th century. Severe animosity between Michigan (especially) and Notre Dame failed to destroy ND as a powerhouse football program and the residual institutional memory at Notre Dame is why they refused the Big 10 for the last four decades.
Today the expansion of the SEC and Big 10 has played hell with the schedules for both conferences and I think (and hope) neither conference wants to expand further at this time.
Where does that leave Notre Dame? Probably outside of the most profitable two conferences and obligated to either join the ACC (playing USC, Navy, MSU ooc) or just swallow their bile and do better next year.
I kinda like ND as an independent. It's an interesting part of college football history. They just need to understand both that they have to qualify as an independent and that just being Notre Dame is not an automatic bid.
Notre Dame's most commonly played opponents are not bad. Games against Southern California, Michigan, Michigan State, Purdue, Navy, Boston College rounded out with three or four ACC teams is a legitimate schedule if at least a few of their opponents are ranked and they win their games. If you lose? Well, being left out of the national championship picture is what's supposed to happen.
Their problem and their virtue is their independent status. That was something that emerged by institutional decision in the early 20th century. Severe animosity between Michigan (especially) and Notre Dame failed to destroy ND as a powerhouse football program and the residual institutional memory at Notre Dame is why they refused the Big 10 for the last four decades.
Today the expansion of the SEC and Big 10 has played hell with the schedules for both conferences and I think (and hope) neither conference wants to expand further at this time.
Where does that leave Notre Dame? Probably outside of the most profitable two conferences and obligated to either join the ACC (playing USC, Navy, MSU ooc) or just swallow their bile and do better next year.
I kinda like ND as an independent. It's an interesting part of college football history. They just need to understand both that they have to qualify as an independent and that just being Notre Dame is not an automatic bid.
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