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Notre Dame Football: The Keystone to Future Conference Supremacy
Posted on 2/11/23 at 6:23 am
Posted on 2/11/23 at 6:23 am
With OU and Texas joining the SEC soon, it’s time to talk about further expansion.
At the moment, It's no secret that the SEC is the premier college football conference in the country, year in and year out. But this can easily change in the next 3-5 years at the drop of a hat.
Clearly the B1G won the expansion wars adding USC and ICLA, which have a bigger market than the OU and UT additions, and thus generating more revenue for each school in their conference. In the NIL era, this will be the key to dominance and submission.
Enter Notre Dame.
The Independent that every major conference wants to tame. The “Bad Boy with dreamy eyes” or “James Dean” of college football, if you will…
The ACC will try to use the basketball connection to lure in Notre Dame to save their dying conference. So Notre Dame to the SEC would put the stake through the heart of the ACC and limit the battle of conferences to what will be the P2.
Which brings to mind why the SEC must wrest Notre Dame from the B1G before it’s too late.
Notre Dame has one of the most storied and successful football programs in the country. So, imagine the excitement of Notre Dame-Alabama, Notre Dame-Georgia, Notre Dame-LSU. Imagine the hype for Brian Kelly against his old team in the SEC Championship Game! Amazing! But if the B1G gets Notre dame and match ups like Notre Dame-Michigan, Notre Dame-Ohio State, Notre Dame-USC, that’ll be a major ratings win for them and a major loss for the SEC.
Notre Dame has a massive national following, and by joining the SEC, they will have the opportunity to play on a national stage every single week. And let's not forget, the B1G really beat the SEC in the conference expansion wars by expanding their footprint from coast to coast. What better way to stick it to them by poaching one of the 3 biggest programs in their territory (the other two being Michigan and Ohio State).
The SEC is one of the most lucrative conferences in the country (only behind the B1G), and with the addition of Notre Dame, that's only going to get bigger. This is going to bring a lot of new revenue to the SEC, and it's going to bring a lot of new opportunities for the schools in the conference. Much needed new opportunities as the B1G will be making more money than ever. Getting Notre Dame into the SEC will level the playing field and keep the B1G commissioner and fans B1G Mad.
Let’s face it, if the B1G gets Notre Dame we could be looking at decades of B1G dominance in the expanded playoffs and NIL era.
I really hope Greg Sankey gets this, whether by reading this message or from some other source of divine inspiration, because the conference wars are just heating up, and Kevin Warren is bring out the B1G Guns!
At the moment, It's no secret that the SEC is the premier college football conference in the country, year in and year out. But this can easily change in the next 3-5 years at the drop of a hat.
Clearly the B1G won the expansion wars adding USC and ICLA, which have a bigger market than the OU and UT additions, and thus generating more revenue for each school in their conference. In the NIL era, this will be the key to dominance and submission.
Enter Notre Dame.
The Independent that every major conference wants to tame. The “Bad Boy with dreamy eyes” or “James Dean” of college football, if you will…
The ACC will try to use the basketball connection to lure in Notre Dame to save their dying conference. So Notre Dame to the SEC would put the stake through the heart of the ACC and limit the battle of conferences to what will be the P2.
Which brings to mind why the SEC must wrest Notre Dame from the B1G before it’s too late.
Notre Dame has one of the most storied and successful football programs in the country. So, imagine the excitement of Notre Dame-Alabama, Notre Dame-Georgia, Notre Dame-LSU. Imagine the hype for Brian Kelly against his old team in the SEC Championship Game! Amazing! But if the B1G gets Notre dame and match ups like Notre Dame-Michigan, Notre Dame-Ohio State, Notre Dame-USC, that’ll be a major ratings win for them and a major loss for the SEC.
Notre Dame has a massive national following, and by joining the SEC, they will have the opportunity to play on a national stage every single week. And let's not forget, the B1G really beat the SEC in the conference expansion wars by expanding their footprint from coast to coast. What better way to stick it to them by poaching one of the 3 biggest programs in their territory (the other two being Michigan and Ohio State).
The SEC is one of the most lucrative conferences in the country (only behind the B1G), and with the addition of Notre Dame, that's only going to get bigger. This is going to bring a lot of new revenue to the SEC, and it's going to bring a lot of new opportunities for the schools in the conference. Much needed new opportunities as the B1G will be making more money than ever. Getting Notre Dame into the SEC will level the playing field and keep the B1G commissioner and fans B1G Mad.
Let’s face it, if the B1G gets Notre Dame we could be looking at decades of B1G dominance in the expanded playoffs and NIL era.
I really hope Greg Sankey gets this, whether by reading this message or from some other source of divine inspiration, because the conference wars are just heating up, and Kevin Warren is bring out the B1G Guns!
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Posted on 2/11/23 at 6:27 am to Between TheHedges
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At the moment, It's no secret that the SEC is the premier college football conference in the country, year in and year out. But this can easily change in the next 3-5 years at the drop of a hat.
Posted on 2/11/23 at 6:29 am to Between TheHedges
Notre Dam is in survival mode.
Sec is sitting on top of the mountain.
Big ten can’t win a title.
You make solid points about ND and Big Ten fanbases.
But that is it.
Sec is sitting on top of the mountain.
Big ten can’t win a title.
You make solid points about ND and Big Ten fanbases.
But that is it.
Posted on 2/11/23 at 6:40 am to Between TheHedges
frick Notre Dame.
This post was edited on 2/11/23 at 8:45 am
Posted on 2/11/23 at 6:41 am to Between TheHedges
Who all seen the leprechaun say YEEAAHHHHH
Posted on 2/11/23 at 6:46 am to Between TheHedges
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Clearly the B1G won the expansion wars adding USC and ICLA, which have a bigger market than the OU and UT additions
So why wasn’t the Pac12 more successfull than the SEC
This post was edited on 2/11/23 at 8:18 am
Posted on 2/11/23 at 6:49 am to Between TheHedges
Bigger market sure but i would make a wager that they have a lower % that is watching college FB on any given Sat. then the state of Tx and OK.
Posted on 2/11/23 at 6:49 am to Between TheHedges
Oh wow, just wow.
First, The Big Ten with ND, while would command a lot of eyes, does not have enough traction to actually change the CFP. Yes, the Big 10 would make more money, but counting NC won since 1970 (this includes ND, USCw and UCLA) just in football somewhere around 10, while the SEC without the new additions, has more than 20, and in the last 20 years has won 14
Basketball and baseball the SEC is running away with those titles as well (last Big 10 title in basketball, Michigan State in 2000) and in baseball it is even worse
Say there were two mansions, the SEC's and Big 10's (comparing money and titles.) The Big 10 uses their money to just keep up appearances while the SEC uses theirs to makes changes to improve their mansion. The Big Ten can make all the money they want, it will be the SEC that wins the titles.
The big problem is the the Big 10 (along with ND) is they are in the frozen tundra part of the country. There will not be many top athletes that want to go north from the south (and the south is where most of them live.)
Yes California has some athletes, but how many times has the west coast teams even had a chance to win the title?
Getting ND for the Big 10 will make them more money, but really not titles. If ND were to join the SEC, ND might have a chance to win titles again, but honestly the SEC does not need ND athletically or financially
Sorry for the wall of text.
First, The Big Ten with ND, while would command a lot of eyes, does not have enough traction to actually change the CFP. Yes, the Big 10 would make more money, but counting NC won since 1970 (this includes ND, USCw and UCLA) just in football somewhere around 10, while the SEC without the new additions, has more than 20, and in the last 20 years has won 14
Basketball and baseball the SEC is running away with those titles as well (last Big 10 title in basketball, Michigan State in 2000) and in baseball it is even worse
Say there were two mansions, the SEC's and Big 10's (comparing money and titles.) The Big 10 uses their money to just keep up appearances while the SEC uses theirs to makes changes to improve their mansion. The Big Ten can make all the money they want, it will be the SEC that wins the titles.
The big problem is the the Big 10 (along with ND) is they are in the frozen tundra part of the country. There will not be many top athletes that want to go north from the south (and the south is where most of them live.)
Yes California has some athletes, but how many times has the west coast teams even had a chance to win the title?
Getting ND for the Big 10 will make them more money, but really not titles. If ND were to join the SEC, ND might have a chance to win titles again, but honestly the SEC does not need ND athletically or financially
Sorry for the wall of text.
Posted on 2/11/23 at 6:54 am to Between TheHedges
ND is irrelevant other than name.
Posted on 2/11/23 at 7:01 am to Between TheHedges
Imagine the hype for Brian Kelly against his old team in the SEC Championship Game!
Lol, you’re not getting to that game. You’d be lucky to go 5-4 in conference.
Lol, you’re not getting to that game. You’d be lucky to go 5-4 in conference.
Posted on 2/11/23 at 7:11 am to Between TheHedges
For how well OSU played GA in the playoffs this year, the B10 has not been relevant in postseason at all. For all the B10 TV viewership and massive broadcast deal they just signed, their product just isn’t that interesting and I know they have a ceiling at the end of the year—they are not part of the national championship picture. What they have done well though is create a product with coast-to-coast national appeal in large markets and a perception that their teams are really good (MI, OSU), but at the end of the day, if you’re interested in national championships, you have to be following the SEC.
Posted on 2/11/23 at 7:12 am to Syd
Imagine the cat fight between ND and Texas. Which would be the most AssHolie? And the Off-season champion would be one or the other. Vols/Corndoggies would never win another.
Bring it on…
Bring it on…
Posted on 2/11/23 at 7:26 am to Between TheHedges
Except too much expansion lowers the value
Posted on 2/11/23 at 7:32 am to Between TheHedges
Posted on 2/11/23 at 7:36 am to Between TheHedges
Obviously ND is a prize for any conference but culturally and geographically they are a better fit in the B10.
While the SEC is no longer confined to the southeast, we are still predominantly southern teams with mostly southern culture.
While the SEC is no longer confined to the southeast, we are still predominantly southern teams with mostly southern culture.
Posted on 2/11/23 at 7:52 am to Between TheHedges
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Clearly the B1G won the expansion wars adding USC and ICLA, which have a bigger market than the OU and UT additions, and thus generating more revenue for each school in their conference. In the NIL era, this will be the key to dominance and submission.
Traditional market size no longer matters. Now it's all about eyes on the TV and what you can charge people to watch, not in-market v. Out-of-market.
Eyes on TV and compelling matches - SEC won the expansion by a mile
Posted on 2/11/23 at 7:52 am to dstone12
This isn’t the 70s
Notre dame doesn’t carry that much weight anymore
Notre dame doesn’t carry that much weight anymore
Posted on 2/11/23 at 7:53 am to Between TheHedges
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Clearly the B1G won the expansion wars adding USC and ICLA
It is not expansion, it is realignment prior to contraction
We had the P6, Big East is gone
We have the P5, and PAC and B12 will probably have to merge
ACC won the realignment wars, they went from DFL to 2nd
SEC kept 1st with OU and Utx
B1G fell to 3rd - keeps adding schools but none win anymore
PAC is 4th, and sinking fast
B12 was 2nd in 2009 and are on life support now
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Which brings to mind why the SEC must wrest Notre Dame from the B1G before it’s too late.
You have not been paying attention
Notre Dame hates the B1G for numerous reasons
Notre Dame is mostly in the ACC and as the old Domers die off that is where they will land. They are a PRIVATE school and the ACC is home to the most PRIVATE schools.
In the near future the Irish will be in the ACC
Texas has already made the move to the SEC
B1G started moder realignment in the quest to add both and will get neither, they lost. They have lots of population but terrible product and they kill the schools they add.
Michigan State won Natty's before they joined, NONE since
Penn State won Natty's before they joined, NONE since
Nebraska won Natty's before they joined, NONE since
(insult to injury, B1G kicked Nebraska out of they AAU after they joined the B1G)
If you really believe the B1G has a shot at the Irish you probably are not Irish, nor are you Catholic
PS, UCLA is a state school in California, I am not 100% the state of California will let them leave the PAC if it causes hardship for Cal and the other state schools that depend on the PAC for scheduling. Do you really think the Far West will let UCLA go if it kills sports on the Left Coast?
Posted on 2/11/23 at 8:05 am to Between TheHedges
Big 10 and Norte dame compete with nfl markets. No one in the sec cares about nfl besides Louisiana and the saints. I haven’t met a real falcons fan in my life
Posted on 2/11/23 at 8:13 am to Between TheHedges
It is incredible to me how much some people - some of them even fans of SEC schools - misunderstand what makes the SEC the SEC. We don't chant "SEC, SEC" just because we're the best conference. I mean, of course we are, but that isn't the point. We chant it because the SEC represents the South. frick "winning" conference alignment. Keep the SEC Southern and the rest will take care of itself. Notre Dame is about as Southern as a damn moose. They need to go elsewhere.
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