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Posted on 12/12/25 at 4:40 pm to Valleyoil
Posted on 12/12/25 at 4:40 pm to Valleyoil
Because there are literally no lengths that Bama will not go to, to win. Do your research into the Albert Means/Logan Young scandal. People have been killed. Lawyers' files have been stolen for the sake of Alabama football.
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Posted on 12/12/25 at 4:42 pm to KingOfTheWorld
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They introduced the nation to southern football in 1925
This seems like hyperbole, especially on this board, but this is quite literally true, and a fascinating piece of football trivia from 100 years ago.
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The Crimson Tide entered the season as the defending Southern Conference champions, and would go on to shut-out all but one of their regular season opponents (277–7) enroute to a second consecutive conference championship.
Yet that wasn't good enough to guarantee a spot in the Rose Bowl — at least not for a team from the South, which was considered inferior.
Walter Camp, the noted journalist and college football pioneer, had picked just one Southerner on his All-American team in 34 years.
And the Rose Bowl was in no hurry to select a team from the South, even if that team was dominant. Reportedly four or more schools turned down invitations and several others in the East made it known that they weren't interested.
Before accepting the invitation as the first Southern team in the annual game, coach Wallace Wade warned his players that they would have to sacrifice their Christmas vacation, practice for an extra three weeks, and travel on a train for several days from Tuscaloosa to California. They also knew that they would face a University of Washington football team that had posted a record of 10–0–1. The team quickly voted to accept the challenge. Additional pressure was soon put on the team by a melodramatic campaign instigated by a Tide booster who asked civic clubs in Tuscaloosa to send telegrams to the players reminding them that the honor of the South was on their shoulders.
What mattered most, though, was Alabama boarded the train headed home with the school's first national championship.
As the team travelled back, they were met by proud Southerners and brass bands in most towns that their train passed through. Even students at rival Tulane University cheered the team when it stopped in New Orleans. After the team finally arrived in Tuscaloosa, players were feted at a wild parade where most of the town turned out for speeches and accolades.
The victory raised the status of Alabama and Southern football, and teams from the South played in 13 of the next 20 Rose Bowls, including Tennessee, Georgia Tech, Georgia, and Tulane.
It has subsequently been recognized as one of the most important in Southern football history, and has been deemed "the game that changed the South."
Posted on 12/12/25 at 4:43 pm to m2pro
History and Heritage goes further and runs deeper than anyone in the SEC
Posted on 12/12/25 at 4:47 pm to Valleyoil
Why is Alabama considered a better job than LSU?
Because everyone at LSU talks funny.
Because everyone at LSU talks funny.
This post was edited on 12/12/25 at 4:49 pm
Posted on 12/12/25 at 6:15 pm to Valleyoil
It is above most jobs in CFB because of history.
Posted on 12/12/25 at 6:18 pm to graves1
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LSU what were they? Average team at best.
Can you explain what you mean by "average team at best"?
Posted on 12/12/25 at 7:10 pm to Harry Boutte
LSU was an average football program before Coach Saban. I just did a quick search and before Saban it shows LSU had 7 SEC championships. Auburn had 13. Georgia had 10. Tennessee had 10. Ole Miss had 6 in that same time. In that same timeframe Alabama had 23. So going by just the number of SEC football championships they would be “average at best.”
Posted on 12/12/25 at 7:23 pm to graves1
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Auburn had 13.
I’m reading Auburn has 8 in the history of the SEC so I’m not going to bother checking the rest of your numbers.
Posted on 12/12/25 at 7:35 pm to dkreller
It came from the SEC site. I don’t know for a fact that they are accurate or not. But Auburn only having 8 doesn’t help your argument. Just shows average program range. The 13 is counting SIAA and SOCON. So Auburn would be just 5 SEC championships.
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Posted on 12/12/25 at 7:39 pm to graves1
No it just shows LSU in the top 4 regardless of total SEC count.
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Posted on 12/12/25 at 7:41 pm to Valleyoil
When Alabama needed a coach, they went out and got the highest regarded coach in the FBS
When LSU needed coaches, they went out and got CBK and Lane.
I don’t think any are actually good hires but there is a clear profile difference.
When LSU needed coaches, they went out and got CBK and Lane.
I don’t think any are actually good hires but there is a clear profile difference.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 12:25 am to graves1
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I just did a quick search and before Saban it shows LSU had 7 SEC championships. Auburn had 13...
lol
You do realize that Auburn doesn't even have 13 now, right? I believe they had 5 in 2000, along with Florida.
The year before the league expanded in 1992 LSU was 11th nationally in win %, behind only Alabama and Tennessee in the SEC, and had winning records vs all other SEC teams besides Alabama and Tennessee, and was in more bowl games than all but them. LSU was 4th behind UGA in SEC titles, but tied in NCs. LSU was arguably 3rd in the conference. UGA has passed LSU for third only recently, and has now, I would say, just passed Tennessee to take 2nd place in the SEC.
"Average at best" implies below average. At best, they were top 10% in the country and 3rd in the league. That's actually above average. At worst they might be average.
Alabama is a better program due to history, tradition, dedication from the school, boosters and fans, and (generally) better quality management.
Louisiana's corruption alone would discount the state for most serious professionals.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 12:44 am to Valleyoil
Why are the Yankees a better job than the Rays?
Posted on 12/13/25 at 12:47 am to Tha crook
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I think they will fall into mediocrity though over the next decade
What are you, 15 years old?
Posted on 12/13/25 at 1:55 am to Dallaswho
There's more to this story . . .
From '82 through '06, they also went out and got:
Ray
Bill
Gene
Mike
Dennis
Mike
Mike
No one thought any of those were the highest regarded coach in CFB.
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When Alabama needed a coach, they went out and got the highest regarded coach in the FBS
From '82 through '06, they also went out and got:
Ray
Bill
Gene
Mike
Dennis
Mike
Mike
No one thought any of those were the highest regarded coach in CFB.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 2:10 am to Valleyoil
WTF? What a cuck thread. I feel bad for LSU fans in this thread. Alabama is no different than any job since Bear left. They got lucky to land Saban. Look at all the other blue bloods outside the SEC minus Ohio State. All of been garbage.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 2:29 am to lsutiger2
Its all about tradition. Thats why the top jobs are Texas, Alabama, Michigan, Notre Dame, Georgia and Ohio State. Then you got the lower tiers that think they are top jobs....like LSU, Penn State, Oklahoma, USC, Miami, Florida, ect....LSU had to offer Brian Kelly 100 million to leave Notre Dame when we, Notre Dame fans would have taken 5 dollars to take him off our hands....and look what LSU had to pay for Lane Kiffin...a guy who hasnt won shite.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 4:38 am to IrishDave
Basically, at Bama (and other blue blood schools), no matter how you do, football will NEVER be an afterthought. It will always be center stage. Too much history at any of the mentioned schools especially Bama.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 5:25 am to Valleyoil
People underestimate the importance of "brand name" in college football.
Players are drawn to Bama simply because of their brand. LSU has some of that too, but not to the level that Alabama has.
In the end, it's easier to win (and thus a better job) at a place where it's easier to have more talent on your team. Right now there's no place where it's easier to convince talent to come to than Alabama.
There may be teams with more talent... UGA has a lot of talent. But I think that's more a factor of Kirby Smart being an elite recruiter than UGA being a better draw than Alabama (not that UGA is chopped liver in that area... Bama is just better).
Players are drawn to Bama simply because of their brand. LSU has some of that too, but not to the level that Alabama has.
In the end, it's easier to win (and thus a better job) at a place where it's easier to have more talent on your team. Right now there's no place where it's easier to convince talent to come to than Alabama.
There may be teams with more talent... UGA has a lot of talent. But I think that's more a factor of Kirby Smart being an elite recruiter than UGA being a better draw than Alabama (not that UGA is chopped liver in that area... Bama is just better).
Posted on 12/13/25 at 5:28 am to JackieTreehorn
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Why are the Yankees a better job than the Rays?
Not a great comparison. The yankess have more than double the payroll as the Rays do. Yankees and Rays are more like comparing Bama and West Virginia.
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