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re: No suspension for Dial

Posted on 12/14/12 at 9:57 am to
Posted by Party At LSU
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Posted on 12/14/12 at 9:57 am to
I think what elevated the uproar about this particular play is that previously in the game, McCarron got hit and it was flagged. Yeah, it was deemed helmet to helmet, but it was more so in the action of the play itself and appeared not nearly as violent as Dial's "block."

Had the the hit on McCarron, which was an attempt to sack the QB, not been flagged, I don't think you'd see so much controversy about the hit on Murray.
Posted by Silverback
Gumpin' ain't easy
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 12/14/12 at 9:58 am to
quote:

The Birmingham Office continues to show that they allow Bama to play by a different set of rules.


Posted by Swoopin
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 12/14/12 at 9:58 am to
Good call
Posted by TreyAnastasio
Bitch I'm From Cleveland
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 12/14/12 at 9:58 am to
Theyre completely different scenarios though.
Posted by Aman
Alabama
Member since Mar 2010
5181 posts
Posted on 12/14/12 at 9:58 am to
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Alabama fans are full of the suck.

It was a blatant cheap shot on a qb that gets flagged in every single college football game (except for Bama). The head of the SEC officials even said that they specifically look for cheap shots on the qb's after turnovers.

Other players in the league get suspended for hits that the SEC deemed malicious, yet Bama players are allowed to use WWE moves on opponents and now the SEC has proven that Bama defenders are allowed to head-hunt the opponent's quarterback.


The Birmingham Office continues to show that they allow Bama to play by a different set of rules.




This place is awesome!!
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
61978 posts
Posted on 12/14/12 at 9:58 am to
quote:

It was a blatant cheap shot on a qb that gets flagged in every single college football game




No


quote:


he head of the SEC officials even said that they specifically look for cheap shots on the qb's after turnovers.




Wasnt a cheap shot


quote:


Other players in the league get suspended for hits that the SEC deemed malicious




When they hit defenseless players



Yes, it was a cheap shot on a defenseless player. Quarterbacks get special treatment in football now-a-days. I'm not saying that I agree with it, but they do. You just can't breathe on a qb, even after a turnover, which the head of the SEC officials stated. You guys know it was dirty and should have been flagged. The only reason I think he should be suspeneded is because the league has suspended other players for "hitting too hard". But yet again, Bama is protected.



quote:

U Maaaaaaaad


Yes I am. Sick and tired of Bama getting special treatment.

Kentucky and stinking Tennessee in 2013.
Posted by TT9
Global warming
Member since Sep 2008
82952 posts
Posted on 12/14/12 at 9:58 am to
bullshite, there would still be haters on here because It's a Bama player.
Posted by Beer Bryant
In a Hidden Bunker
Member since Jan 2012
8792 posts
Posted on 12/14/12 at 9:58 am to
SEC's Steve Shaw on radio: "This was an interception return ... If (Murray) moved to participate in the play, he's a defender."

Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 12/14/12 at 9:59 am to
Posted by DvlsAdvocat
Your Mom's House, AL
Member since Jul 2007
24491 posts
Posted on 12/14/12 at 9:59 am to
quote:

I think what elevated the uproar about this particular play is that previously in the game, McCarron got hit and it was flagged. Yeah, it was deemed helmet to helmet, but it was more so in the action of the play itself and appeared not nearly as violent as Dial's "block."

Had the the hit on McCarron, which was an attempt to sack the QB, not been flagged, I don't think you'd see so much controversy about the hit on Murray.



The McCarron penalty was EXACTLY within the definition of the rule. Hitting a player in the act of throwing the ball. Just as the Elston hit earlier in the year was was on a receiver stretched out to make a catch. Both instances were the very DEFINITION of the defenseless player rule.
Posted by Bellabama
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Posted on 12/14/12 at 9:59 am to
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They (many officials, etc.) likely looked at the replay hundreds of times to determine if it was a helmet to helmet hit. To me it was in a gray area where Dial didn't seem to intentionally lead with his helmet but because he is so much bigger than Murray, their helmets definitely collided during the hit. I would have been OK with either interpretation. Regardless, the hit was completely unnecessary since Murray was well away from the action.



My take on all of it was that the SEC basically talked to the schools and said that if Alabama players are suspended for that hit, Georgia players will be suspended for the eye gouging incident. Neither Richt nor Saban wanted to have the SEC suspend players, and were happy to handle it internally.

Posted by TreyAnastasio
Bitch I'm From Cleveland
Member since Dec 2010
46759 posts
Posted on 12/14/12 at 10:00 am to
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Yes, it was a cheap shot on a defenseless player


He was the exact opposite of a defenseless player in this situation.
Posted by Party At LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2005
10696 posts
Posted on 12/14/12 at 10:00 am to
quote:

Theyre completely different scenarios though.


Whatever. I'm just portraying from the eye of the viewer.
Posted by Aman
Alabama
Member since Mar 2010
5181 posts
Posted on 12/14/12 at 10:01 am to
quote:

I think what elevated the uproar about this particular play is that previously in the game, McCarron got hit and it was flagged. Yeah, it was deemed helmet to helmet, but it was more so in the action of the play itself and appeared not nearly as violent as Dial's "block."


The hit on AJ was the very definition of an above the neck hit on a defenseless player. The same can't be said for Dial's hit. Dial should have been flagged, but it was not as obvious as the hit on AJ.
Posted by Matlock
Perry, GA
Member since Sep 2011
235 posts
Posted on 12/14/12 at 10:01 am to
Does this mean Alabama fans will stop complaining about calls in a game they won, now?
Posted by GatorReb
Dallas GA
Member since Feb 2009
9281 posts
Posted on 12/14/12 at 10:01 am to
quote:

Just talked to an LSU fan who was fine with it. I think it's just overly feminized male internet posters who are up in arms.


I am 100% ok with hits like this. Hell I think this is how football should be. But it's not consistent. That would have gotten a flag thrown on it 90% of the time. And Murray was jogging and not going full speed cause he wasn't expecting to get tagged like that.

If that play was legal and always allowed you can be sure that Murray wouldn't have half assed jogged like that.

So again I don't have a problem with the hit itself. I have a problem with the way the rules call something's and not others.
Posted by cwsec
Member since Feb 2012
194 posts
Posted on 12/14/12 at 10:01 am to
You are one big ole cry baby!!!
Posted by DvlsAdvocat
Your Mom's House, AL
Member since Jul 2007
24491 posts
Posted on 12/14/12 at 10:02 am to
quote:

Whatever. I'm just portraying from the eye of the uneducated viewer.



FIFY...
Posted by Bellabama
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Member since Nov 2009
30878 posts
Posted on 12/14/12 at 10:02 am to
quote:

Does this mean Alabama fans will stop complaining about calls in a game they won, now?


Doubt it. If we don't complain, people assume there weren't any bad calls against us.
Posted by TT9
Global warming
Member since Sep 2008
82952 posts
Posted on 12/14/12 at 10:02 am to
quote:

Yes I am. Sick and tired of Bama getting special treatment.

Kentucky and stinking Tennessee in 2013.
might as well throw LSU in there too, we haven't shut Tennessee or Kentucky out recently.
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