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re: NIL is getting out of hand
Posted on 12/20/22 at 10:02 pm to tigerskin
Posted on 12/20/22 at 10:02 pm to tigerskin
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And that value is what other teams would be willing to pay for that coach.
I am not saying to like it. I am saying that is what their value is.
Being the head coach of Alabama does pay more than most others, and there is good reason for it. Alabama pays more because it pays for higher quality.
Yet, if Alabama hires another HC next year, and we go and get a hot G5 coach, he's going to make roughly 5-6 million per year, not the 10+ that Saban gets. If we grab a hot OC/DC from another team, 4-5 million per year.
The agents know these numbers. It's their job to push it to the limits.
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Posted on 12/20/22 at 10:02 pm to silverstreak
Yep. It's like Biden is running the NCAA. Should have put a cap on it at least.
Posted on 12/20/22 at 10:05 pm to TizzyT4theUofA
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The market value is not a static number. There are many variables that will make it flucuate year to year and prospect to prospect.
There is a range, sure. But it's not you and I who are making these evaluations. It's people who make those deals who know when something is or isn't in market range.
And btw, this only exists for boosters. Legit NIL deals are going to apply this by default.
Posted on 12/20/22 at 10:06 pm to WonderWartHawg
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Yep. It's like Biden is running the NCAA. Should have put a cap on it at least.
Lol, putting a cap on it is exactly what Biden would do.
Posted on 12/20/22 at 10:10 pm to 3down10
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It's people who make those deals who know when something is or isn't in market range. And btw, this only exists for boosters.
It is within range if someone is willing to pay it.
I assume you're still holding out hope that pay for play is not going happen and NIL is going to be used for it's intended purpose.
Posted on 12/20/22 at 10:35 pm to TizzyT4theUofA
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It is within range if someone is willing to pay it.
I assume you're still holding out hope that pay for play is not going happen and NIL is going to be used for it's intended purpose.
No, people are willing to buy a recruit. Not because they are giving them a legitimate NIL deal.
As for as my hope, I will quit watching completely if the NCAA doesn't prevent it. I don't give a shite if Alabama wins every national championship until the end of time as a result, it's not college football anymore.
Next they'll reclassify it as sports entertainment.
Posted on 12/20/22 at 11:15 pm to silverstreak
Won't say, real principled stance.
Posted on 12/20/22 at 11:34 pm to silverstreak
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How much did Bryce make this year?
It’s different being offered $5M to transfer and play to a school rather than being offered however much Bryce made, from the school you have been with since the beginning and have already proven your self.
Posted on 12/20/22 at 11:37 pm to deeprig9
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You have to believe Florida is one of them.
You kidding me? We can’t even afford HS school ‘ roots that want that much.
Posted on 12/21/22 at 5:16 am to silverstreak
Ruining college sports.
Now it's like the NFL without the long term contract
Now it's like the NFL without the long term contract
Posted on 12/21/22 at 5:19 am to silverstreak
Pat Narduzzi makes 5 million, Drake Maye brings more value to a team than Pat Narduzzi
Posted on 12/21/22 at 5:42 am to Dawgfanman
Ten million dollar coaches. Hundred million dollar stadiums. Billion dollar conference television deals.
And we've still got people worried about what a booster might pay a player. A whole lot of folks around here seem to think themselves more than qualified to determine how somebody else can spend their own damn money.
And we've still got people worried about what a booster might pay a player. A whole lot of folks around here seem to think themselves more than qualified to determine how somebody else can spend their own damn money.
Posted on 12/21/22 at 7:33 am to ScoggDog
Bunch of ignorant responses in this thread. The schools aren’t paying these kids and are not supposed to be involved.
This is not a ‘salary’ or a pay, it’s basically endorsements. How are you going to cap an endorsement? Many many pro athletes get paid just to wear and be a representative of a brand. That’s what NIL is.
The biggest issue, and people won’t like this, is we have too many damn teams in D1 sports. The nfl is 32 teams, D1 football is what 130? If we had 50 D1 teams things would be a lot more similar.
If you can’t compete financially, frankly you shouldn’t be jn D1.
This is not a ‘salary’ or a pay, it’s basically endorsements. How are you going to cap an endorsement? Many many pro athletes get paid just to wear and be a representative of a brand. That’s what NIL is.
The biggest issue, and people won’t like this, is we have too many damn teams in D1 sports. The nfl is 32 teams, D1 football is what 130? If we had 50 D1 teams things would be a lot more similar.
If you can’t compete financially, frankly you shouldn’t be jn D1.
Posted on 12/21/22 at 1:07 pm to TizzyT4theUofA
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you think the kids shouldn't get paid?
If they are going to get paid that much, do away with the scholarship part. They can afford to pay their own damn way!
Posted on 12/21/22 at 1:16 pm to silverstreak
Anyone with any sense knew that NIL was going to be a Pandora’s box. It was never about not paying players or letting them cash in on their notoriety, it was about trying not to kill the golden goose & preventing college football from becoming a free-for-all with perpetual free agency.
The bleeding hearts that couldn’t see past the surface of their virtue signaling made this bed.
The bleeding hearts that couldn’t see past the surface of their virtue signaling made this bed.
Posted on 12/21/22 at 1:19 pm to silverstreak
People who say they're against NIL and the transfer portal are trying to say they're against capitalism and at-will work arrangements but are having trouble finding the right words. Since these are the market conditions for most people who work for a living, it's hard to understand why this should be some special case.
Posted on 12/21/22 at 1:20 pm to FairhopeTider
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Anyone with any sense knew that NIL was going to be a Pandora’s box. It was never about not paying players or letting them cash in on their notoriety, it was about trying not to kill the golden goose & preventing college football from becoming a free-for-all with perpetual free agency.
The bleeding hearts that couldn’t see past the surface of their virtue signaling made this bed.
There's always been a market for players, and all of our programs have been very active participants in that market for many, many years. The only difference now is that the prices are starting to be posted.
Posted on 12/21/22 at 1:23 pm to TizzyT4theUofA
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Lol, putting a cap on it is exactly what Biden would do.
Kind of like he did at the border?
(Wrong board, I know.)
Posted on 12/21/22 at 1:23 pm to BobMayonnaise
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It’s different being offered $5M to transfer and play to a school rather than being offered however much Bryce made, from the school you have been with since the beginning and have already proven your self.
What is that difference, exactly? They're both being paid for their performance.
It's like Company A giving an employee a big raise for past performance, while Company B hires a similar employee from Company C for a big raise. This is how free markets work.
Demanding an overarching regulator come in and stop this market competition is essentially demanding socialism.
Posted on 12/21/22 at 1:25 pm to NaturalStateReb
Amen. The boosters didn't get rich paying for things without a solid ROI. I assume it'll be the wild west for a few more years, but eventually we'll have a better idea of true market value for these kids. Then the 5* qb will get millions and the 3* wr will get a few local contracts. But it'll open the door for the 3* db that turns out to be a generational talent to capitalize on their proven talent.
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