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re: NIL is getting out of hand
Posted on 12/20/22 at 8:47 pm to TizzyT4theUofA
Posted on 12/20/22 at 8:47 pm to TizzyT4theUofA
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Libertarian in principle,
Likewise
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there are a lot of folks that hate free markets.
They just don't yet understand how it minimizes corruption.
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Posted on 12/20/22 at 8:52 pm to LSUdude247
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The easiest way to fix it is to give it a cap. 100k.
Nah, schools will just cheat and break the cap. Schools cheat whether the cap is $0 or $100k. The only way schools won’t cheat is if there is no cap… because there is no rule to break.
Posted on 12/20/22 at 9:00 pm to silverstreak
I know there are a lot of very wealthy people in this world but plenty of big boosters will be asking themselves why again did I pay this much money for these kids when only 1 team holds the trophy at the end of the season.
This post was edited on 12/20/22 at 9:06 pm
Posted on 12/20/22 at 9:00 pm to matsuflex
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They’ve been saying all year they would take him after this year
Can you provide a link where someone from the school said that?
Posted on 12/20/22 at 9:02 pm to TizzyT4theUofA
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Libertarian in principle
Anyone with a basic understanding of civics that isn't a bigot or trying to gain power is.
So like 5 people these days.
This post was edited on 12/20/22 at 9:02 pm
Posted on 12/20/22 at 9:03 pm to deeprig9
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You have to believe Florida is one of them.
You'd have to be a dumb arse to believe that. One thread is about how Florida has no money for NIL, and the next says UF offered $5 million to a QB. fricking morons.
Posted on 12/20/22 at 9:05 pm to LSUdude247
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The easiest way to fix it is to give it a cap. 100k. That way all programs have equal fight for all players.
Easy other than the fact the courts will not allow it. Other than that, easy. If the NCAA could have set a cap, they would have by now.
This post was edited on 12/20/22 at 9:06 pm
Posted on 12/20/22 at 9:09 pm to LSUdude247
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The easiest way to fix it is to give it a cap. 100k.
That way all programs have equal fight for all players.
All they have to do is enforce existing rules which would prohibit boosters from paying them anything higher than market value.
The rules already exist. The NCAA claimed 9 months ago those rules were still in effect.
The only thing I'm waiting for is enforcement. I don't even give a shite if Alabama gets screwed over for it, this shite needs to end and the only way it's going to end is for the NCAA to enforce the rules.
After that, there is no need for a cap. If Nissan wants to pay Bryce Young for those Heisman commercials, so be it. Dr Pepper - so be it. etc. Those are legit NIL deals.
Posted on 12/20/22 at 9:21 pm to silverstreak
i don’t understand people that are surprised by this. Did they really think schools signing coaches to 100 million dollar contracts would go cheap on a Heisman caliber quarterbacks?
I heard that biletnikoff award winner got 2 million to go to USC and my first thought was “why is Arkansas paying 2 million for crappy coordinators and not paying 3 million for the best receiver in the country?”.
Give me Ed Orgeron and Joe Burrow over Bear Bryant and a bunch of G5 talent every day.
I heard that biletnikoff award winner got 2 million to go to USC and my first thought was “why is Arkansas paying 2 million for crappy coordinators and not paying 3 million for the best receiver in the country?”.
Give me Ed Orgeron and Joe Burrow over Bear Bryant and a bunch of G5 talent every day.
Posted on 12/20/22 at 9:25 pm to 3down10
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Anyone with a basic understanding of civics that isn't a bigot or trying to gain power is. So like 5 people these days.
Posted on 12/20/22 at 9:25 pm to 3down10
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All they have to do is enforce existing rules which would prohibit boosters from paying them anything higher than market value.
Who decides what the market value is?
Posted on 12/20/22 at 9:27 pm to TizzyT4theUofA
I don't think it's bama offering that lol
Posted on 12/20/22 at 9:28 pm to Doak Walker
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Who decides what the market value is?
Other teams deciding what they are willing to pay
Posted on 12/20/22 at 9:30 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
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How much did Bryce make this year?
Millions.
But most was from Dr Pepper and Beats.
Not from Alabama.
Posted on 12/20/22 at 9:37 pm to Doak Walker
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Who decides what the market value is?
People in that market.
Think of it as being like when a booster owns a car dealership. The booster can hire a player to work at the dealership, but they have to show the player worked the hours and made the same wage as anyone else doing that job. Aka, you can't pay them $50k a month for washing cars a few hours a month.
So for example, take a social media following. There are people who know how much the number of followers is worth, so if you pay the athlete and they make a social media post, they generally know what that is worth. You can't just say here's $1 million, just tweet we are awesome once.
There could be some flexibility in that the person themselves has more value. For example, take a commercial on TV where yo don't have a direct metric. Maybe 1 player has more value than another. But then at the same time, you can't be paying a guy $1 million for a 10 second spot on local broadcasting that reaches 30 people regardless of who it is. Because nobody would do that.
Basically, the reach of what is being done is going to play a large part in market value. You'll have to be spending money on things other than just the player, unless the player has a defined metric as I mentioned above with followers.
In other words, if you want to pay him $1 million to do a single commercial, it better be a Super Bowl Commercial.
Posted on 12/20/22 at 9:39 pm to RockyRococco
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I don't think it's bama offering that lol
Me either. My opinion has nothing to do with Alabama.
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Posted on 12/20/22 at 9:44 pm to 3down10
I’m curious what source the NCAA is going to point to and say “no no no… that’s not market rate”. You have one in mind that won’t have lawyers for the players and collectives ripping it to pieces?
Posted on 12/20/22 at 9:50 pm to PeleofAnalytics
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I’m curious what source the NCAA is going to point to and say “no no no… that’s not market rate”. You have one in mind that won’t have lawyers for the players and collectives ripping it to pieces?
I have a hard time believing this would be a difficult task given all the money involved and how much the NCAA keeps for other operating expenses.
It's the same people who make the deals. I don't know any of them by name for NIL related things, but for example: Who knows the market value of coaches? Jimmy Sexton.
Posted on 12/20/22 at 9:52 pm to 3down10
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Who knows the market value of coaches? Jimmy Sexton.
And that value is what other teams would be willing to pay for that coach.
I am not saying to like it. I am saying that is what their value is.
This post was edited on 12/20/22 at 9:54 pm
Posted on 12/20/22 at 9:53 pm to 3down10
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Who knows the market value of coaches? Jimmy Sexton.
The market value is not a static number. There are many variables that will make it flucuate year to year and prospect to prospect.
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