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re: NIL has neutered the SEC in the 2 big money sports
Posted on 4/7/26 at 7:21 pm to UltimateHog
Posted on 4/7/26 at 7:21 pm to UltimateHog
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The SEC is projected to have the most in the first round again.
Really? See this projection.
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Two SEC picks in the first 15 and six overall. Five Ohio State picks alone. I think the Big Ten has a lot more picks.
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Posted on 4/7/26 at 7:33 pm to captdalton
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And they and the NCAA over reaction to Covid gave us the unlimited transfer portal.
this is the biggest problem with college athletics. NIL would be manageable without this
Posted on 4/7/26 at 7:58 pm to D3Fan
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In detail, tell how it was “unequal cheating” before. We’re all those big brains up north incapable of coming up with paying under the table? Or are you suggesting that they were all pure as the snow? You keep making the claim. Back it up, big boy.
If you think the SEC was not cheating more than other power conferences, you must get your same news from wherever Greg McElroy gets his news
So it’s just an assertion with no proof. Nice. I should definitely take message board guy D3Fan’s word for it. The modern NIL era shows that pretty much any player will chase the bigger bag. How do you think OSU, Oregon, Penn State et al were getting big time players from the south during the earlier era, my man?
Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:02 pm to Lgrnwd
Big 10 achieved their goal. Ripping away SEC talent and winning championships with it while the SEC beats the hell out of each other and loses championships. Its a shiit show really and the SEC played right into their hands.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:12 pm to Crimson K
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So it’s just an assertion with no proof. Nice. I should definitely take message board guy D3Fan’s word for it. The modern NIL era shows that pretty much any player will chase the bigger bag. How do you think OSU, Oregon, Penn State et al were getting big time players from the south during the earlier era, my man?
This must be what it is like to try and "prove" to Greg McElroy that we did indeed go to the moon. Let's look at some data points shall we?
1. How many SEC teams have been busted for infractions in the last 50 years? Look it up - the SEC has been busted the most and that's of course just for when they were caught.
2. Let's look at the culture. The SEC cares about winning only . The Big Ten actually requires that all of their schools are members of the AAU indicating a certain level of academics. See point 1.
3. Finally, who has been winning since NIL made paying players legal?
Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:22 pm to Lgrnwd
With NIL and the portal currently as is no conference can beat the Big 10. If caps and transfer limits come around the Big 10 will be relegated to being the blown out opponents in national title games again.
The answer to your question is salary caps and transfer limits. Period.
The answer to your question is salary caps and transfer limits. Period.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 10:03 pm to D3Fan
Iowa twice as wealthy as Auburn?? GTFOH!!! As much as I dislike those barners, that’s just stupid. Auburn has plenty of billionaires like Tim Cook CEO of Apple, the Yella Fella guy who’s a billionaire are.:: and not to mention the Gorrie family, who one of the largest construction companies on the planet. It would take nothing for them to give a hundred million. All schools have billionaires, it’s just how they spend their money. Maybe the SEC schools aren’t willing to sell their souls for a good player that they know will screw them in the end.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 10:10 pm to ColoradoAg
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The SEC cannot compete with the B10. They make more money. They play a physical brand of football and basketball - the SEC does not. Nowadays, the SEC is more run and shoot, including the best teams in the league.
The B10 will line up and blow you off the ball. In both sports
Wow, ColoradoAg has fully transitioned from just bashing his own school to the entire conference now. I mean, why would anyone so damned negative be a fan of sports anyway?
Posted on 4/7/26 at 10:48 pm to Jack Ruby
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Once Alabama loses Oats, they will fall back again.
When will that be?
He’s already turned down UK and UNC.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 10:49 pm to D3Fan
If Tim Cook would pony up we’d be in good shape.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 11:19 pm to RTRnFlorida
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Iowa twice as wealthy as Auburn?? GTFOH!!! As much as I dislike those barners, that’s just stupid. Auburn has plenty of billionaires like Tim Cook CEO of Apple, the Yella Fella guy who’s a billionaire are.:: and not to mention the Gorrie family, who one of the largest construction companies on the planet. It would take nothing for them to give a hundred million. All schools have billionaires, it’s just how they spend their money. Maybe the SEC schools aren’t willing to sell their souls for a good player that they know will screw them in the end.
So much to unpack here. First, there's no need to guess. Why don't we look up the endowments of both schools. Iowa's $3.77 billion. Auburn's is $1.4 billion. Does that sound like double to you? There are no perfect measures of "school wealth" but endowment is usually considered the best proxy. \
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Second, you are implying that SEC schools won't overpay for athletes like they are somehow being more responsible with their money? HA HA HA. The Big Ten will blow the SEC out as far as legal spending so now the SEC is the responsible one?
Posted on 4/7/26 at 11:35 pm to Lgrnwd
Well in the SEC it is
Kentucky
Florida
Tenn
LSU
Auburn
Kentucky
Florida
Tenn
LSU
Auburn
Posted on 4/7/26 at 11:43 pm to Lgrnwd
It is cyclical..sometimes the Big Ten will be on top, sometimes the SEC...we dominated for awhile, now it is your turn. Both conferences have big money programs and programs that have won modern natties(I say modern is 1950). It will alter to each for a time.
Posted on 4/8/26 at 4:46 am to Lgrnwd
Every team winning championships seems to have loaded up on 5th yr seniors and are trying to make one big run at a championship.
Roster building and culture be damned. While the SEC is dominating in recruiting, the transfer portal seems to be the cheat code.
Roster building and culture be damned. While the SEC is dominating in recruiting, the transfer portal seems to be the cheat code.
Posted on 4/8/26 at 5:36 am to D3Fan
You missed the point numb nuts.
Just because Auburn Alumni don’t give 59 dollars for a bumper sticker doesn’t make them wealthy. Endowment and some mega donor giving money because they like to see their team be successful are two separate things.
But by your account, answer this. Why is Iowa terrible at almost every sport if the have so much money?
Just because Auburn Alumni don’t give 59 dollars for a bumper sticker doesn’t make them wealthy. Endowment and some mega donor giving money because they like to see their team be successful are two separate things.
But by your account, answer this. Why is Iowa terrible at almost every sport if the have so much money?
Posted on 4/8/26 at 6:39 am to D3Fan
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This must be what it is like to try and "prove" to Greg McElroy that we did indeed go to the moon. Let's look at some data points shall we?
You really think this is a zinger, don’t you? It’s an argument to the absurd, which often introduces an argument with little merit.
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1. How many SEC teams have been busted for infractions in the last 50 years? Look it up
So your answer to provide the receipts for your claim is look it up. I can’t wait for you to hit me with “it’s not my job to provide the proof for my assertions, just trust me bro.”
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2. Let's look at the culture. The SEC cares about winning only . The Big Ten actually requires that all of their schools are members of the AAU indicating a certain level of academics. See point 1.
So the SEC only cares about winning, but the Big 10 has academic integrity, so this proves cheating. Can you see the absolute disconnect in this logic, ESPECIALLY considering that your assertion is that the Big 10 will spend more money now? It is extra funny considering how Big 10 teams have multiple instances of real world criminal activity related to sports programs.
So now the Big 10 cares about winning because they can pay players, but before they were just academic bastions. Do you not remember “We don’t come to play school?” I’m sure all the 5 stars were just flocking to that AAU accreditation.
You assert that SEC schools were allowed to get away with paying players, so that is why they won, but then go on to say they get busted for paying players more. It takes a special kind of smart to argue against yourself.
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3. Finally, who has been winning since NIL made paying players legal?
This was not in question. Stating A in no way proves B. This is akin to me saying that the SEC winning championships proves they didn’t cheat.
This post was edited on 4/8/26 at 6:48 am
Posted on 4/8/26 at 10:39 am to RTRnFlorida
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But by your account, answer this. Why is Iowa terrible at almost every sport if the have so much money?
NIL spending is now above board. Perhaps you missed how they did in football last year and head to head with the SEC in bowl season?
Posted on 4/8/26 at 2:19 pm to D3Fan
Major infractions from your link:
Southeastern Conference (98)
Big Ten Conference (89)
Big 12 Conference (91)
Atlantic Coast Conference (75)
SEC is at the top at 10% more than the Big 10, and 7% more than the Big 12, but how does this show that the SEC was paying more?
These are not all recruiting related.
Southeastern Conference (98)
Big Ten Conference (89)
Big 12 Conference (91)
Atlantic Coast Conference (75)
SEC is at the top at 10% more than the Big 10, and 7% more than the Big 12, but how does this show that the SEC was paying more?
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The SEC has had the most recruiting infractions.
These are not all recruiting related.
Posted on 4/8/26 at 2:37 pm to Crimson K
So let me get this straight. It is the feeling of some on this board that the SEC did not engage in more illegal payments to players than other conferences pre NIL? Is that really what some people are alleging?
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