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re: Nick Saban (D-AL) to travel to DC to lobby lawmakers for NIL regulation
Posted on 6/6/23 at 7:07 pm to paperwasp
Posted on 6/6/23 at 7:07 pm to paperwasp
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I think he simply knows things aren't heading in the right direction with NIL
He knows that NIL destroyed the monopoly that he had in college football and because of that Alubana is on the decline! Sorry that we do not feel sorry for you!
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Posted on 6/6/23 at 7:10 pm to tigerbait2010
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I mean, nick Saban is the epicenter of my pain and suffering as an lsu alum, but I can’t condemn the guy for being pissed at what NIL is doing to college sports.
He cashes $10 million a year, for a football program that makes about $150 million a year ? Show me any CEO of any corporation that big that makes 6.5% right off the top.
Nick is pissed about one thing, and it ain't the money. He's pissed that he's lost control. That's all NIL has done to college football. It's given the labor - the kids - some control. Nick doesn't like that.
He's a Hell of a coach. Let's not pretend, however, that he's a Hell of a human being. He'd be Taggart in Blazing Saddles, bitching about the cost of that hand cart.
Posted on 6/6/23 at 7:12 pm to NFLSU
quote:You spelled Tennessee incorrectly.
“Thou shall not make Alabama play LSU every year”
Posted on 6/6/23 at 7:12 pm to supersaints9
quote:So someone who got their asses kicked for years and a sudden turn around due to NIL and transfer portal totally reverses the game doesn't need addressing? If you can't admit NIL and transfer portal have ruined college football then you aren't paying attention.
He knows that NIL destroyed the monopoly that he had in college football and because of that Alubana is on the decline! Sorry that we do not feel sorry for you!
Posted on 6/6/23 at 7:13 pm to Diamondawg
quote:If you can't admit NIL and transfer portal have ruined Nick Saban's lock on buying teams, then you aren't paying attention.
If you can't admit NIL and transfer portal have ruined college football then you aren't paying attention.
Posted on 6/6/23 at 7:15 pm to Lsuhoohoo
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Commissioner Greg Sankey will lead a group that is expected to include university presidents, athletic directors and lobbyists.
Don’t let this little nugget get in the way of this public temper tantrum though.
Posted on 6/6/23 at 7:18 pm to Harvey Wallbanger
quote:I could give two shits about Nick Saban. It's about college football not becoming George Steinbrenner and the Yankees. I assume you can follow the analogy.
If you can't admit NIL and transfer portal have ruined Nick Saban's lock on buying teams, then you aren't paying attention.
Posted on 6/6/23 at 7:19 pm to Diamondawg
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So someone who got their asses kicked for years and a sudden turn around due to NIL and transfer portal totally reverses the game doesn't need addressing? If you can't admit NIL and transfer portal have ruined college football then you aren't paying attention.
Yes. Because just because you grew up near Tuscaloosa, or Columbus - or chose to pick them the way an Alabama fan also is a die hard Yankees fan - doesn't mean you have a birthright to turn on the TV and feel vicariously slightly superior because your brand beat another brand.
NIL and transfer portal has only ruined college football for the folks with the Penn State mentality - when they really thought they were better because of Joe Pa. Nope - they were not.
The fan mentality makes about as much sense as walking around with your dick stuck out because you watched Dynasty or Falcon Crest last night. Or you shouted hard when Ric Flair beat Ricky Steamboat.
NIL cuts through the crap.
Posted on 6/6/23 at 7:22 pm to Diamondawg
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I could give two shits about Nick Saban. It's about college football not becoming George Steinbrenner and the Yankees. I assume you can follow the analogy.
So you like it better, instead of paying the kids ... when the blue bloods build dorms better than any five star hotel ? And secure better chefs and trainers and such to make them into resorts also marketed as huge multi-million dollar recruiting structures ?
Honestly - why in the Hell do you think the drive for facilities was so big for the last twenty years ? Because that was how you bought players - when you couldn't just pay the players.
Posted on 6/6/23 at 7:30 pm to ScoggDog
I bet you a $1,000 you can't tell me what's Ok with NIL and what's not? NCAA shat the pants when they had to deal with it.
Posted on 6/6/23 at 7:40 pm to ScoggDog
But college sports is a field that was created without profit motive. It is an opportunity to continue your education by way of a scholarship to practice your craft. Being the CEO of a university football program simply is not the same as running a burger chain.
I don't disagree calling out Saban losing his grip of control, but he's not a soul-less vessel that makes every move based off of his own personal best interest.
Only the SEC Rant would be so outrageous that I am here empathizing with Nick Saban.
I don't disagree calling out Saban losing his grip of control, but he's not a soul-less vessel that makes every move based off of his own personal best interest.
Only the SEC Rant would be so outrageous that I am here empathizing with Nick Saban.
Posted on 6/6/23 at 7:41 pm to Diamondawg
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I bet you a $1,000 you can't tell me what's Ok with NIL and what's not? NCAA shat the pants when they had to deal with it.
Then you'll lose. Let me tell you why.
I went to a Div II school - academic scholarship. You know what they never did ? Never told me I couldn't work on the side. Never told me I couldn't put "student of school XYZ" on the application. As a matter of fact, they wanted me to. Enhanced the reputation of the school
Guess who else is never told they have to ask the school for permission to make money ? Every kid in every Div I school on a band scholarship. Or any other grant or "scholarship" for drama, or anything else. Because the school doesn't own the kids right to make money. That would be insane. It would be indentured servitude.
Especially while you, and those like you, buy the same corporate crap - often with the same kids number on the back of the jersey.
So - gonna' send me a grand ? Of course not. And that's OK by me. Just keep shitting your pants because it chaps your arse that you can't turn on the channel in September and assume your chosen brand ... which you have nothing personally invested in, you're only a fan of the brand ... will roll over somebody else and provide your vicarious thrill.
Seriously ... you might as well get excited over Ric Flair. Or maybe think yourself smarter because you're a Barry Windham kind of guy.
Posted on 6/6/23 at 7:46 pm to tigerbait2010
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But college sports is a field that was created without profit motive.
Simply bullshite. Purely, look it up, bullshite.
College sports, as they were in the beginning, were started by a few schools tied into the military as officer training venues. Athletic scholarships really came into their own only in the twentieth century ... and really, really took off post WW II. About the time that stadiums started to get big enough where schools started to see that enough tickets could be sold to make a buck, especially with subsidy from Big Gub'Mint.
Prior to that, sometimes a school would put a pretty much semi-pro team together, just for the prestige of beating the university down the road. Such was the history of the Ivy League.
Posted on 6/6/23 at 7:51 pm to ScoggDog
It's obviously leaned more into being strictly a business, but it is no different to me than a non-profit that has to operate like a business but has a mission statement that isn't about the bottom line.
My take is defending the scholarship athletes that are fine with their full ride to live their dream and get a free education to do it. We are on the same page regarding nick saban panicking over losing his vice grip, but his general intent is for the good of the sport.
It's depressing it will end in the SEC and Big 10 being minor league operations but I commend anyone working to slow down the process
My take is defending the scholarship athletes that are fine with their full ride to live their dream and get a free education to do it. We are on the same page regarding nick saban panicking over losing his vice grip, but his general intent is for the good of the sport.
It's depressing it will end in the SEC and Big 10 being minor league operations but I commend anyone working to slow down the process
Posted on 6/6/23 at 7:52 pm to Trumansfangs
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Wow, a Nick Saban thread overrun with LSU posters. Go figure !
You'd think they'd want to give that 2003 title back.
Posted on 6/6/23 at 7:53 pm to ScoggDog
quote:Not yet. What can you do and what can you not do? What's crossing the line? How do you give a 5* qb a million and a 6'5" volley ball player zero?
Then you'll lose
Posted on 6/6/23 at 7:58 pm to Diamondawg
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Not yet. What can you do and what can you not do? What's crossing the line? How do you give a 5* qb a million and a 6'5" volley ball player zero?
Easy. My money is mine. I can give the QB all of whatever I want to donate, and volley ball girl nothing. Or the other way around.
And look - schools have always done this as well. Most kids in the non-revenue sports get partial deals. And not every kid on every team gets the same deal.
It's simple. I'm not a booster - but let's say I wanted to pay kid XYZ to cut a promo for my little one man company. Then frick the NCAA. I do not need their permission to pay a kid for a legal and ethical transaction.
And I don't care what that does to college athletics.
Posted on 6/6/23 at 8:08 pm to ScoggDog
quote:So you really don't care that it separates the haves from the have nots. I would rather deal with the cheating part than rather than up upping the ante on cheating. We'll rotate NCs among 4 or 5 schools from here on out in all sports because than can outbid everyone else. Sucks for college athletics.
And I don't care what that does to college athletics.
Posted on 6/6/23 at 8:09 pm to ScoggDog
Life doesn’t have to be a John stossel episode. I think everyone agrees with you that nick Saban has ulterior motives but he does love and care about the student athlete experience. I’ll at least give that a-hole an ounce of credit
Posted on 6/6/23 at 8:11 pm to Diamondawg
I don’t understand how someone can’t distinguish the mission and intent behind the student athlete experience and running every aspect of life like a business.
You can hold two thoughts at once. Of course nick Saban wants more autonomy like he previously had but he understands what’s happening to college athletics
You can hold two thoughts at once. Of course nick Saban wants more autonomy like he previously had but he understands what’s happening to college athletics
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