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re: New York times story on the Alabama basketball murder case

Posted on 3/15/23 at 10:01 pm to
Posted by TiderNAL
Member since Nov 2010
7188 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 10:01 pm to
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I don’t see the New York Times reporting on something they didn’t check out first.


Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 10:01 pm to
Your dumbass doesn't even know what ironic means.

Go seek "legal council" again.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28297 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 10:07 pm to
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Surely the failing NYT wouldn’t put out a false or misleading story


the NYT used to own the Tuscaloosa paper. They obviously have a grudge.
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
30949 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 10:14 pm to
I can’t believe that these basketball players hung out together.
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
30949 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 10:17 pm to
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then it no different that saying he was



Well said
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
30949 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 10:21 pm to
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Amazing how you started posting that after I started posting this...













Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
American southerner
Member since Nov 2013
35959 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 10:21 pm to
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You mean the media will do that, just lie about something?

Do you people hear yourselves?



Really? because when you're posting as "cajunbama" you pretend to be a big govt pro-media leftist
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
30949 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 10:26 pm to



^^^Harry Rex drunkard’s 1st cousin/son^^^


SSOOOOOOOOEEEEEEEYYYYYYY




Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 10:36 pm to
That old drunk retard thinks I'm 14 different people.
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
30949 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 10:39 pm to
He thinks I’m texag7
Posted by TigerinKorea
Member since Aug 2014
8292 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 10:40 pm to
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He thinks I’m texag7


Well… you are.
Posted by BZ504
Texas
Member since Oct 2005
9522 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 11:03 pm to
They should all be suspended. Plain and simple.
Posted by BrerTiger
Valley of the Long Grey Cloud
Member since Sep 2011
21506 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 11:16 pm to
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If Kai was not there, I still think they would have a hard time creating a successful defamation lawsuit against the NYT.

Reporting that a guy was in a car, essentially a witness, doesn't really hurt his reputation or any other "injury". Just my .02


Yup.

I'm going to paste the relevant parts of the NYT article for y'all here.

quote:

Jaden Bradley, a freshman guard, was also at the scene. A review of surveillance video showed his car was in a narrow lane that intersects University Boulevard, parked ahead of Miller and Spears. Behind Miller and Spears was a Jeep with Harris in the front passenger seat.

The video showed Davis approaching the Jeep from behind, along the driver’s side. Soon, flashes from gunshots could be seen entering and exiting the Jeep. After several shots were exchanged, Davis appeared to have been hit and staggered backward into a telephone pole. He regained his balance and circled in front of Bradley’s car while continuing to fire at the Jeep. Two bullets struck the windshield of Miller’s car. Neither struck Miller or Spears.

“I’m sorry, I’m not going to be able to speak about that,” said Spears, a freshman who has not played this season and who is the son of Marshall University’s athletic director, Christian Spears. Kai Spears briefly spoke Wednesday in the locker room Alabama was using for practice ahead of its first-round N.C.A.A. tournament game against Texas A&M-Corpus Christi on Thursday. Miller also declined to comment.


quote:

On Feb. 21, a police detective testified at a pretrial hearing about the presence of Miller and Bradley at the scene. He said that Miles had texted Miller, telling him to pick him up and that “I need my joint,” referring to Miles’s gun, which he had left in the back seat of Miller’s car.

The detective also made note of an unidentified passenger in Miller’s car. A person familiar with the case identified that person as Spears. That person spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive matters in the case.


NYT exposed the name of one of the dudes wearing the poor taste T-shirts in Nashville:

quote:

The T-shirt was deemed in such poor taste that the SEC said that any fans wearing it would be prohibited from entering the arena for Sunday’s championship game. A conference spokesman said afterward that security officials had not spotted anyone wearing the T-shirts.

“It’s meant to make you think,” said the man, who identified himself as Jimmy Johnson, from Mobile, Ala., as he stood in the concourse just after halftime on Saturday. The man, whose real name is Jason O’Rear, hung up without answering questions on Wednesday when he was contacted by the Times.

Last week he called the shooting a tragedy but said that Oats and Miller were being unfairly attacked, using an expletive. “The media is going to cancel Miller,” he said. “Now, I don’t condone anything about what happened, but I know where the media is going to come crashing down and try to ruin a guy’s career. I know where the clicks are.”

He was asked if he would feel differently if his daughter had been killed.

“I don’t know,” he said.


quote:

But in a surveillance video, when Davis hobbles toward a parking lot — after firing at least eight bullets and taking one in the shoulder — Bradley, the freshman from Rochester, N.Y., peels out and turns onto University Avenue.

As Miller follows after them, the Jeep, with the mortally wounded Harris, sideswipes Miller and Spears, one bullet-riddled car screaming past another in a tragedy that could have been even worse.


I thought I saw somewhere that they said Davis fired the bullets that hit Miller's windshield but I can't find it now. Seems implied. They don't give any clarity about who fired first but it's consistent with the ESPN article (based on watching video) that stated Davis approached the Jeep on the driver's side.

So other than putting Kai Spears out there as the previously unnamed passenger and outting one of the naughty T-shirt wielding fiends, I don't see anything much new here.

But it is interesting that Bama is denying Spears was there. Spears himself didn't give such an out and out denial when asked. Surely the dashcam video from Miller shows whether he was there or not.
This post was edited on 3/15/23 at 11:33 pm
Posted by SmithsAuFan
San Diego, CA
Member since Jul 2013
1663 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 11:26 pm to
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Next we're going to find out Nate Oats was there.


"We were doing team building exercises."
Posted by cmayes56
Alabama
Member since Oct 2015
2844 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 11:28 pm to
I’m not sure why it matters one way or the other if Sears was there..

But I guess it does blow up the narrative of “if it was a walk-on he’d be kicked out of school “..
Posted by BrerTiger
Valley of the Long Grey Cloud
Member since Sep 2011
21506 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 11:29 pm to
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Players are routinely suspended from games when they are involved in an ongoing investigation


Perhaps but we've not been given even the slightest hint that there's any real evidence that Miller is guilty of anything more than ferrying around a gun in his backseat. Everything else remains conjecture.

Maybe the NYT will find some well placed source to tell the world how Tuscaloosa PD is pinning this all on Miles and Davis and sweeping Miller's involvement under the rug. I guess it's possible but I wouldn't hold my breath.

Basically the NYT article is saying that Miller and Sears were lucky they weren't killed (and they were).
Posted by BrerTiger
Valley of the Long Grey Cloud
Member since Sep 2011
21506 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 11:31 pm to
quote:

But I guess it does blow up the narrative of “if it was a walk-on he’d be kicked out of school “..



How? Bama denies Sears was there.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50625 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 11:43 pm to
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So you think the NYT would openly libel a college kid to hurt Alabama basketball?


Well no. I think the NYT creates narratives. They don't report actual news anymore.
Posted by rolltiden49ers
Member since Dec 2019
103 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 11:44 pm to
The same liberal NYT that covered up the hunter Biden fiasco? Y’all will believe anything if it fits your agenda, including listening to the lies from NYT!
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 11:56 pm to
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They should all be suspended. Plain and simple.


Fortunately for us you don't have a say and no one cares.
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